• Landsharkgun@midwest.social
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      You really couldn’t be further from the truth. Solarpunk is a firmly anarchist ideology, to the point of mild annoyance. There are plenty of reasons to oppose the TikTok ban that have nothing to do with ML.

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        For supposed anarchists they seem to say exactly the same things as a CCP cuck would. They banned me for arguing on a meme they posted about how awful “Western Democracies” are.

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    In that sense, TikTok is really their competition. They’re upset not because it steals your data, they’re upset because they’re not the ones getting your data.

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    Isn’t the guy that developed Pixelfed working on a short-form video platform? That would be better than TikTok I would think.

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      Correct. This was the big reason. Data is only important for micro targeting your propaganda.

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        And also for scams or other fraud campaigns.

        For me its hard to believe massive widespread “pig butchering” scams are being orchestrated by some random Chinese thugs with no affiliation.

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      There can be more than one concern at once, propaganda is certainly a problem but there is a greater one on what kind of AIs china is training.

      But of course lemmy only things AI is dangerous because some fucking furry deviantartist didn’t get paid for their cock-and-ball-torture scribbles were one of billions of images scraped.

      When the reality is that services like tiktok, youtube, and any media aggregator can use AI to make deep inferences about people’s lives and build up a near complete profile of your personality, income, political leanings, mental illnesses, family relations, and physical location JUST from your watch history.

      Most of you are sneering right now because you really have no clue how bad it is going to get.

      15 years ago, Walgreens used a primitive AI to determine women who were pregnant from their purchasing patterns, and would send out coupon kits for baby things and a congratulations letter. It was so accurate it knew often before the women themselves.

      So anyway, some 16 year old kid gets a prenatal package based on AI, outing their pregnancy to her parents. Things didn’t go well for anyone and Walgreens dropped the program.

      THIS WAS FROM 15 YEAR OLD AI TECHNOLOGY!

      Imagine what modern models can glean from you. Even after reading this most of you will be clueless and strangely arrogant in your ignorant positions about how none if this is really a big deal

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        It’s from 15 years ago because it’s super easy to track shopping for something like a pregnancy.

        There’s zero “AI” needed, even if such a thing existed.

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          I don’t think you understand at all, not even a bit.

          It wasn’t that the women were shopping for pregnancy items, its that they were shopping for other normal items just in the pattern that pregnant women tend to shop for early in the pregnancy.

          Like I said, a ton of women getting the notice WERE NOT AWARE THEY WERE EVEN PREGNANT YET!

          But you deliberately misunderstand to shift the focus away from the ACTUAL problem.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      More specifically, Chinese state interests influencing Americans. US elected officials are AOK with US, plutocrat and commercial interests influencing Americans.

      It’s not about protecting the public, it’s about who gets to engage in malicious action against the public.

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      Also scams. They know you, your name, your contacts, dob, where you work, where you spend leisure time, your face, your house layout, and from your message details probably your darkest secrets and ssn.

      Chinese online and over the phone scams have been surging massively in the past few years.

  • madcat@lemm.ee
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    Banning TikTok never had anything to do with “protecting your data”.

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      You are correct. TikTok uses Oracle servers in the USA with a backup server in Singapore. The FCC made sure data does not got to China.

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        You are incorrect. Id be the dumbest motherfucker to believe that China isn’t slurping that data up in tens of different ways. TikTok has the backing and approval of the CCP, so that to me is suspicion enough. Don’t try to obfuscate shit behind shell companies and undercover CCP operatives in advantageously-aligned countries.

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    You can tell who read the article and who didn’t based on whether their comment is about the TikTok ban (which wasn’t actually the focus of the article at all).

    Anyway, GetGee sounds like an interesting project but it wasn’t clear to me how work has actually been accomplished to date. Is it just a proposal at this stage? The website is pretty bad and doesn’t provide much in the way of recent updates or information.

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    Or, we could, you know, mulch every fucking one of the bastards and rejoice in a world free of their self-indulgent bullshit.

    Oh wait, I keep forgetting, a shitton of you still worship billionaires.

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      You don’t get it… If I don’t defend Musk and Bezos, then I have to admit I’m being fucked over. Then I have to actually deal with the reality that life is completely out of my control except for collective bargaining and class consciousness.

      That takes a lot of unlearning and reformulating to do, and a lot of grace towards myself for falling for propaganda and that rails against my rugged individualism as I have been taught since childhood.

      All of this takes time and effort, as well as the mentioned patience and acceptance that I am not the sole master of my own destiny. That my parents were taught a lie and lied to me, and so did their parents.

      So I believe i n sunk cost fallacies and worship said billionaires.

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        Don’t worry pal, it certainly does take time. So much fucking time. You’ll have way too much time to get use to everything while waiting for that class consciousness. Even then, when you’ve grasped the concept entirely, more time.

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    But will it finally convince people that vertical videos are horrible and short form content obliterates your attention span?

    I know the answer is no, but an old man can dream.

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    Banning TikTok is stop people learning about what’s going on in Palestine and Zionist control of the US government. Nothing to do with keeping anyone safe.

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        I always try to explain to people that tiktok bans were laughed at for like at least two years, then as soon as Bidens unwavering support for genocide starting spreading on the platform that shit got passed in under a month.

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    Tbh, I just don’t like TikTok. Getting rid of it is kinda tempting.

    Ye ye, I get u all, but lemmie have some lil joy out of this situation.

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    TikTok is not the problem. The problem is “I have nothing to hide” mindset. People don’t care about privacy because “ignorance is bliss”. Some people are just not aware about risks of giving up on privacy and other put continence over privacy. Until the general perception of privacy changes, apps like TikTok will thrive.