• Blizzard@lemmy.zip
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    6 months ago

    Thie is a ‘must read’ article and should be trending to reach as many people as possible.

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    6 months ago

    This proposal is bonkers. Imagine aaaall the nudes that will have to be manually assessed by police (until they outsource it because it’s cheaper), and then you have to believe they won’t keep anything and that there are zero bad apples.

    Besides, if the tools are already in place in the apps, it’s only a question of time before the detection system is repurposed for censorship of anything a totalitarian leaning government doesn’t like. Memes about our dear leader? I’m afraid we can’t allow that !

    You can’t have a backdoor that works for the good guys only.

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      repurposed for censorship of anything a totalitarian leaning government doesn’t like

      It’s basically guaranteed they use it against critical journalists, political opponents and activists right out of the gate. It’s what always happens when they get the ability to spy on citizens. And the real criminals move to unofficial encrypted platforms mostly out of reach of law enforcement.

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    The funny thing is that most of those pedophiles who share CP or any of that child sexual shit on the internet don’t use your casual normie’s go-to messaging apps like WhatsApp or Telegram. If they find out that the EU can now request decryption keys to decrypt their stuff, then they’ll switch to something which can’t be circumvented by law and probably start encrypting the messages manually instead. The smarter ones probably already started out like that without trusting any provider in the first place. The only ones that’ll get caught in this chat control bullshit are the retarded ones. Didn’t think a region that was all pro-privacy with their GDPR and their DMA and stuff would actually agree to this.

    • lemmyreader@lemmy.mlOP
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      6 months ago

      If you’re in the EU you can vote and help to make some of them go away with the coming elections which are pretty soon.

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    This is a proposal right? Not something that’s actually in place.

    This happens every few years, and they also happen close to elections.

    I’m not saying that this isn’t dangerous, but these people send these proposals because they use it for their election campaign. They look like they want change, and they then blame too many votes on “not themselves” that it didn’t pass.

    I’m no so scared that this goes through, anyway.

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    6 months ago

    If this passes, could you not self-host an older version of an open source service that does not contain the backdoor (e.g. Matrix) for your closests contacts to circumvent this? Not saying that would be very practical for all communications, but at least for exchanging nudes with your partner? If so, at least there’s that, but it would show how useless it is likely to be as anyone actually in the stated target audience could do the same.

    Or is there something I’m missing that would prevent it?

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        It is assuming this is implemented in a way that forces all existing messaging services to implement this or shut down. In that case, you would want to build it from source from a point in time before it was implemented (or shut down). If that is not the case, then this wouldn’t be much of a problem to begin with, right?

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          this is implemented in a way that forces all existing messaging services to implement this or shut down

          This is not possible. Anybody can host a messaging service as a tor onion, and there is nothing they can do about it :)

          The only way they can make it work is to basically only allow connections to whitelisted services (not even GFW does that).