The GOP is targeting EV tax incentives and EPA rules.
  • phoneymouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    What’s the plan if we run out of oil? I mean seriously, it’s gonna happen eventually. Even if you want to ignore the science on climate change, you can’t ignore basic laws of the universe that oil is a finite resource. If we don’t have a plan for when it runs out, there will be utter chaos.

    • sub_ubi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      7 months ago

      If we keep burning oil then our civilization won’t have to worry about it at all, whatever’s left will be for Immortan Joe

  • Wahots@pawb.socialEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Inb4 “both parties are the same”.

    While I hate stuff like these rollbacks, we are already starting to see EVs save people money on gas and service, and they are stupidly fast compared to ICE counterparts. That’s something Americans of all stripes can get behind.

    Once I tried an ebike, I realized I never wanted to go back to gas engines. So fast, so much torque, and pennies to charge vs $70 gas tanks at Costco (even more at a normal gas station). It just makes economic sense to run PEVs in all major urban areas in addition to mass transit.

    With traffic and some protected bike lanes, even a conventional bike can almost beat a car in a 7-14 mile drive in my city. An ebike makes it even easier.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Yeah, I don’t get it. I understand wanting to reduce or eliminate subsidies (they’re just a cash handout to dealers and manufacturers imo), but there’s no logical reason to be against EVs.

      Here’s my proposal: allow tax credits for private sales. Perhaps add some requirements to certify that the seller owned the car more than a year or something to qualify to prevent flipping.

      • theyoyomaster@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        7 months ago

        There is a logical reason to be against forced adoption before the technology matures. For a lot of the country they are not a viable replacement for ICE yet. They’re improving, but not as fast as ICEs are being phased out and that leaves a lot of places where a dwindling used market will be the only option for many people.

          • theyoyomaster@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            7 months ago

            They’re a joke to all the manufacturers that went all in on EVs before the market fell out from under them.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          7 months ago

          What are you talking about? Pretty much the only thing I see on the used market are ICE vehicles. Do you live somewhere where they’re legitimately hard to find?

          • theyoyomaster@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            7 months ago

            Prices for even 200k mile used vehicles are skyrocketing and cheap new cars simply don’t exist. Yes, ICE is the majority of vehicles out there, especially in rural areas, but they are more expensive and less available than ever. 10 years ago I bought a 100k mile Volvo wagon for $10k, put 50k more miles on it then sold it for $5k; if I wanted to buy the exact same car back today with 250k miles i would need to pay $15k for it. As manufacturers shift to EVs that problem is only going to get worse.

  • sub_ubi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    7 months ago

    This is only a concern for EV companies. The environmental impact of these subsidies and regulations is nill

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      This is only a concern for EV companies. The environmental impact of these subsidies and regulations is nill

      Got a source to back up your claim?

      Here’s one contradicting it:

      Gasoline demand growth to slow this year on EV growth in China, U.S.

      “Penetration of electric vehicles has been increasing in U.S. and China,” said Woodmac analyst Sushant Gupta.

      Both the USA and China subsidize EV sales (and also petroleum exploration and extraction for that matter).

        • force@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          7 months ago

          “There is no future without electrification. But just electrification will not get us there,”

          Daniel Posen is an associate professor in U of T’s department of civil and mineral engineering, and the Canada Research Chair in system-scale environmental impacts of energy and transport technologies. He agrees electrification is vital. But relying solely on electric vehicles to reduce carbon emissions from transportation may not be enough, especially if we want to do it in time to stop a catastrophic two-degree rise in global temperatures.

          The article you link contradicts you, it clearly suggests that adoption of EVs reduce carbon emissions, but we still need to do more (e.g. ACTUALLY HAVE PUBLIC TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE) to prevent a climate catastrophe.

  • BigMacHole@lemm.eeEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Have they tried helping Lower Gas Prices or are they just trying to make owning EVs Illegal like TRUE Small Government, Free Market Leaders would?