According to the latest reports, Windows 11 has made an independent choice by automatically turning on OneDrive folder backup for Desktop, Pictures, Documents, Music, and Video folders without your permission. This signifies that, whether you approve or not, everything is becoming coordinated with the cloud.
This action from Microsoft fits into a larger pattern where big tech companies cleverly (or not so cleverly) promote their services and subscriptions to users. It isn’t only about Microsoft; there have been instances of Google doing something similar with Google Photos and its storage plans.
Keep an eye on your settings, particularly when you have just finished setting up a new device or updating your operating system. Companies such as Microsoft constantly seek methods to link users with their environments—sometimes without permission.
I wonder about Microsoft’s liability on this one. People store all sorts of things in there, some personal, and some corporate things that are at least non-public, if not outright sensitive. Yeah, people should be using an encrypted drive for especially sensitive info (not that this would stop Microsoft when they own the OS), but they don’t, and it’s not for Microsoft to force the issue.
Did their legal department actually sign off on this? Or did someone in MS legal just shit a brick when they saw the headlines?
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Apple does it too if you sign in in the Settings. iCloud gets booted up the moment you sign in and everything goes to the iCloud
I thought part of the apple agreement was that all your data is on their servers. Isn’t that why my media messages from Android to Apple phones look like shit, because Apple only sends shit through their servers and refuses to adapt the industry standard for mobile data?
Not everything. By default the contents of your desktop and documents folder, both of which are easy to switch off if you want.
True, although their OSes don’t really disclose what is and is not being stored in the cloud by default. I like iCloud syncing, so it doesn’t bother me, but I could see how this would annoy others who want everything local.
I was thinking if iOS haha, my bad.
It cannot be that profitable to have just a bunch of random data on their servers. I have so much junk and random bullshit on my drives, it would take a week of labor just to clean my shit well enough to use it for AI training and as soon as I got any notification about cloud space being full i’d turn syncing off - i sure as hell wouldn’t fork over any money for a subscription. This is such a big bridge to burn, and the server overhead must be massive… I just don’t understand how they could possibly think this is a good business decision.
Idk, maybe i’m just too deep into privacy/FOSS/selfhosting headspace to see things clearly from the normal-consumer standpoint but I just do not understand this. I really wish someone would leek an internal conversation at one of these companies that explains the big-picture strategy with this move.
They’re thinking quarterly. Improves OneDrive usage stats. They can also then coerce customers later by saying they’re running out of storage. I’m sure some users will pay, thinking they’re about to lose family photos and other important data
Even on windows 10, Onedrive uploaded random crap you don’t want and then yells at you that the space is full and buy a subscription. It has to be the worst cloud service of them all because of the bullshit integration. It was easier to disable and remove it than to work with it.
I have disabled and uninstalled it, but office 365 still enforces it as the default save as location, so now when I use the dialogue, the system hangs for 30 seconds. Even disabled it in the policy management, but no dice.
@viking @Audacious Wise Registry Cleaner may help here. It’s like the old ccleaner but without the spying and complaints to buy. The issue is most likely registry related.
Oh nice, thanks! Will give it a shot.
…only if you HAVE onedrive account it can reach.
This is a fantastic use case for NOT using a Microsoft account and instead a local account. No Microsoft authenticated account, no Onedrive.
until you can no longer log on with just a local Account. or your Data gets backed up for you anyway. Enshittification is one exec decision away
Good thing they are phasing out local accounts, then.
/s
When I use Windows 11, I use a second local non admin account.
Well, I deleted Onedrive a long time ago, so no it won’t.
It will sneak back on. Linux is the only answer.
Windows is the only operating system that is actively working against you these days. Sneaks in shit settings. Renenables disabled settings. Spies on you. Requires convoluted registry ha ks to stop some of the bullshit. And you always gotta be in too of it.
No thanks, not for me.
People keep saying this, but I’ve never had to redo any of the changes I’ve made.
I’m guessing you audit all the network traffic out of your machine too, to ensure things are not being exfiltrated? I assume you’ve also never had settings turned back on after an update? I sure as shit have.
I’ve never had the settings turned back on after an update, but no I don’t monitor my network traffic, if I cared that much, I’d already be on linux.
Rapist mentality.
Your honour, I asked her if she wanted to have it and she said no. I wasn’t sure what that meant so I asked again. And to make things clearer I told her that “yes” and “maybe later” where the only options. She still didn’t say yes, but after some time I decided that “later” had come. So I Azure you, I did nothing wrong.
Yes, this. That’s essentially the attitude of all of these corporate exec. They know it’s wrong and do it anyways.
I’m pretty sure they don’t think it’s wrong.
There’s always a justification to be
abused somewhere.Maybe maybe not. But they sure as shit do things they know they wouldn’t be able to get away with in any other situation.
Yeah, that’s sadly what a lot of companies do. Push it until people complain, then back off a little for a while and then push further once people are used to the status quo. Rinse and repeat.
Louis Rossman is a far right extremist who promotes unfounded conspiracy theories against technical corporations.
I’m wondering how many people won’t know if that’s serious or not.
You could say if you’re serious or not, but hey
Yes, he does talk a lot about “what ifs” but a lot of his “conspiracy theories” are in the realm of reality. If you do your own research, I think you’ll see that most companies are getting shittier as time goes on.
At this point onedrive can stick a finger in your asshole… And notbing would be done about it!
I got nothing to hide anyway
Would let me watch you take a shit? o.o
Are we doing a Cleveland steamer?
Sure. That’s my kink…
Cool, give me your SSN and bank account numbers
I don’t give my number to no scrubs…
Only to mega corps and Catholic clergy ;)
Thats okay, bad actors are already coming out with tools to take your info from these new “features”. No need for your permission.
feels a bit “rapey” no?
How does one block this?
Microsoft is an abusive ex. It will keep abusing you because it knows no other way. You can waste your days trying to fight against it, trying to figure out how to disable and remove whatever new privacy invasive anti-consumer bloat Microsoft decides to roll out that Tuesday.
Or you can leave and switch to Linux and waste time there instead. Tux is all about that respect and is handsome to boot. He might be a bit sensitive and break down rarely so you might need to spare a few to make sure he’s ok, but it’s nothing a little love can’t handle. And he’s only going to get better and stronger as he grows. You might even look forward to receiving updates (wow, I know). A stark contrast from your abusive ex.
Looks like I’m installing Linux tonight.
Did you?
Yeah. Which one did you go with?!
I’d say try Nobara if you wanna game.
Mint was painless for me and I’ve had no problems with my Steam library
I finally installed Linux Mint along with Windows 11.
Last night I updated my BIOS and afterwards my Linux Boot Manager entry was gone. Almost expected but still didn’t prepare a LiveUSB, stupid. Had to boot into Windows for the first time in a year and was greeted with the message “Hey some security thing changed, your pin is no longer working. Wanna create a new one?” Of course you need to log in to your Microsoft account for that, otherwise you straight up can’t use your install anymore.
Your mistake was using a MS account for your windows install
Believe me, I know :D
I have half a mind to just nuke both partitions and just reinstall Arch on the entire drive.
Although I am wondering what would have happened, if I didn’t have Windows installed after the BIOS update. No boot entries at all? 🤔
When you download something without permission, you’re a criminal
When MicroShit does it, it’s a feature
Well you see, they put it in page 69 of their EULA that got updated last week that they emailed directly to your spam folder. Since you didn’t opt out of that clause my sending a registered letter to their offices in Uganda, Japan, Washington, and Ukraine, it is considered that you agreed to the EULA.
Gotta get scrapping all that data to train copilot+++
This one never really gets old anymore.
Vote this up higher. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if everything ends up in their models.
This is probably the only reason microsoft recall exists, as it is completely useless for anything else.
Oh it was your data? Oops! Embarrassing! Anyway, introducing MAIS! Microsoft AI system!
I wonder how this will work with local accounts
Not sure there will be any.
It just won’t work for a local account. This is for those who sign in/up. And those who are forced to sign in/up in the first setup. My hate towards Microsoft and all the companies like it increases every fucking day.
"We’ve gone ahead and synced all your files to the cloud! Create an account to access them once again.
Enter your email: ______
[ Click here to delay the inevitable ]"
Coincidentally, they make it harder to use a local account with every update.
Install Linux already, just get it over with.
Make VR work on Linux
My understanding is that it is working much better now than a few months ago. I haven’t actually put it to the test yet, but it is on my list of things to try once I have time to set up my index again.
Literally one of the very few things keeping me with a Windows partition, though it doesn’t get used very often
I have it somewhat working on Nobara after SteamVR updated a few weeks back. It works, but is rather unstable and you got to reboot any time it craps out. 6/10 technically functional, but needs work.
It doesn’t help that my headset has had odd issues even on Windows since it’s refurbished.
Yea I fucked around a lot to make it work, Nobara is usually the most stable one to get vr working but valve keeps pushing out updates that completely fucks up the vr launch process. The other big issue is asynchronous reprojection missing.
People usually don’t use linux because or app compatibility ik wine exists but it just doesn’t not work with all apps
To really switch to Linux people need to accept that for a good experience you may need to switch off some software to alternative software.
This wasn’t a big deal for me personally and I’m happy I use more open source software now, it can be a bigger issue especially if you need specific tools for work.
Most apps have open source versions which work better anyway. I’ve been on a Linux desktop literally for the past 20+ years now, never looked back
Ngl I have been using some of the open source alternatives on linux now
I stopped calling them alternatives because that implies that its somehow a “B” version, less than “the original”. Many times these lesser know softwares are superior to their closed source counterparts
Yes, install Linux and the end up using O365 in the cloud anyways 🤡
I’m still learning but it’s so much less aggressive in Linux land.