We are starting to see for quite some time big tech trying to get the internet under their control. We have seen half of the internet starting to block proxies. Tor is not usable in the normal internet anymore. More and more services require a government issued id for their account.

And now Google went ahead and did the final blow by announcing WEI. If that gets integrated on all popular sites, there will be no more open web. We try to fight back as much as we can, but the bitter truth is most people are already ‘good little pets’ of these giants.

Most of the people, are not just okay, but want these big brothers to handle everything for them. They want to get their finances, entertainment, social medias, government services all done for them by these giants without them even knowing. They are ready to live as big brother says. Half of them already don’t have individual opinions.

Although the fight still continues, It’s time to think about plan B. What if most of internet is blocked for us privacy conscious people? We need alternatives. It’s time to build an ecosystem that we people can use without the help of popular services. There are already a lot of softwares, but we need to fill the gaps fast. We need an open hardware, accessible and a fully open software stack including everyday apps for most of our needs and entertainments. On PC it’s almost there. Mobile terribly lacks in the lowest levels, but have some apps that can help.

PC

For PC, we can still install linux on most devices, so linux. For browsing, we can use firefox or any forks of that. Proton and skiff are good alternatives for basic email, storage etc. For social media we have federated systems like lemmy, services like odysee, mewe etc. Share services that you think should be in this list

Mobile

For mobile, we miss variety in hardware section. One option might be pinephone or other linux phones. Other option might ironically be Pixel. For OS, we can use graph eneOS, cal yx OS, linux based OS etc. But setting it up is currently very hard. For browsing, firefox for android is good (I use it) which also has extensions support. Above mentioned services like proton, skiff, lemmy, odysee, mewe etc. has android apps. For IM we have briar, Session, simpleX etc. Share services that you think should be in this list

Help me document a full recommended ecosystem. Maybe we can have a recommended guide. Maybe there are better options. Discuss.

  • Hellfire103@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    42·
    11 months ago

    Services I Use:

    • LibreX (search engine)
    • CloudTube (YouTube proxy)
    • PeerTube (federated YouTube alternative)
    • Tutanota (mail & calendar)
    • Organic Maps (maps app based around OpenStreetMap)
    • Cryptee (encrypted notes)
    • Matrix (chat)
    • LibreOffice + Collabora Office (office suite)
    • Kiwix (offline Wikipedia & other wikis)
    • NetNewsWire (RSS reader, for news)

    Arms of the Fediverse I Use Regularly:

    • Mastodon
    • Pixelfed
    • Lemmy
    • PeerTube
    • WordPress

    Dormant Arms of the Fediverse:

    • Friendica
    • Kbin
    • Funkwhale
    • WriteFreely

    I have installed Linux on all four of my laptops, and I’m hoping to migrate from my iPhone to a Pixel with DivestOS as soon as I move out of my parents’ house (I’m currently 17), or sooner if possible.

    I have also swapped many web apps for desktop apps, and my music collection has been based around CDs and DRM-free files since it started in 2016. In addition, I still use DVDs, VHS tapes, and (to a lesser extent) good old-fashioned Torrents for my films and TV shows.

    If the internet becomes altogether too bad, there’s always Gemini. Making web apps is trickier, but entirely feasible.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol)

    https://gemini.circumlunar.space/

    I think there was also a federated social media site on Gemini, which could interact with Mastodon, but I can’t find it.

    • illectrility@sh.itjust.works
      131·
      11 months ago

      If you’re in the EU, Taiwan or US, may I suggest a Fairphone? They have open bootloaders and support re-locking. You can get a Fairphone with /e/os pre-installed on murena.com /e/os is great and Fairphone has stellar customer support.

      Edit: thanks for helping me discover Kiwix. That’s awesome.

      • Ilandar@aussie.zone
        3·
        11 months ago

        If you’re in the EU, Taiwan or US

        Fairphone is increasingly becoming a global option. Their network compatibility seems to be improving with each generation, whereas earlier models were pretty much limited to the EU. Definitely work looking at if you’re outside of those three regions, since they have full (or close to full) network compatibility in many other places now.

          • Ilandar@aussie.zone
            2·
            11 months ago

            Yeah it’s pretty great. They still might be somewhat difficult to buy everywhere but if you can find one then there’s a good chance it will work. It’s increasingly becoming a legitimate alternative instead of the very niche product it started off as.

    • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.eeEnglish
      210·
      11 months ago

      If all else fails, I vote we start taking this to the people like the crazy gun nuts, the anti-vaxxers, and the crazy religious folks. Specifically the ones who aren’t as smart.

      Convince them that googl€ is going to censor all the information/imagery regarding guns, Jesus, and anti-vax no matter what they say and tell them that if they want it back/to stay, they gotta pull the election riot thing that happened in Washington DC at googl€ headquarters.

      If the message spreads far and quick enough, we might see them pull it off. I’d hope it works and we see them break into the headquarters and storm the place. Even if googl€ calls in the police because they get word of this happening, they won’t be able to stop a large enough crowd. In that scenario, if we’re lucky, we’d see the death of many of the traitors destroying the free web. It’s a win-win for our cause and theirs since what we would be telling them is a lie, but the people who actually go wouldn’t believe it’s a lie.

      • Darth_Vader__@lemmy.worldOP
        6·
        11 months ago

        lol that’s pretty desperate… A better idea I think is let all of us privacy minded individuals from the world migrate t ONE country specifically thereby becoming a major force or even the majority of them. Then we can have like minded politicians and government that can help us protect our privacy. An island in this shit world.

        What about swiss or sweden? Are they good?

      • eddie_of_ny@lemmy.ml
        62·
        11 months ago

        This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. You’re basing your understanding of an entire group of people off a stereotype that circulates on social media. If you gathered up everybody you just described, you’d have an army barely capable of storming a McDonald’s. Touch grass

        • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.eeEnglish
          14·
          11 months ago

          I was talking about getting those who actually fit that stereotype and not just everyone in those groups.

          I’m positive you can get enough of them to believe it through clever social engineering and falsified information/files since the people I am referring to are the ones where that type of tactic works on since they tend not to do any research that disproves their beliefs and refuse to listen to anyone of a differing opinion.

          America is full of unintelligent people, so it’s possible it could happen.

          • eddie_of_ny@lemmy.ml
            21·
            11 months ago

            Even so, that’s a sick misuse of people’s trust, and even if you managed to pull it off, you probably wouldn’t accomplish anything of note