Reddit says Microsoft’s Bing, Anthropic, and Perplexity have scraped its data without permission. “It has been a real pain in the ass to block these companies.”

Reddit says Microsoft’s Bing, Anthropic, and Perplexity have scraped its data without permission. “It has been a real pain in the ass to block these companies.”

  • Freefall@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I don’t think the content on Reddit is their to sell…unless resistors are getting a cut. That site is a dumpster and needs to die already.

  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Without these agreements, we don’t have any say or knowledge of how our data is displayed and what it’s used for, which has put us in a position now of blocking folks who haven’t been willing to come to terms with how we’d like our data to be used or not used

    It’s the users’ data, not yours, you rent seeking fuck

  • Nougat@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    “Let’s see … how do we get more people to visit our site? I know! We’ll prevent search engines from sending people to it!”

    …

    • m-p{3}@lemmy.caEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Big profit now is better than our long term image

      ~ Reddit shareholders

        • Sordid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          It does make a certain amount of sense. Big profit now means you get a chunk of cash to invest in other quick profit schemes, and your wealth just keeps snowballing. It works as long as you don’t care that you never build anything that lasts.

    • Sordid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      It’s phase three of the enshittification cycle. In phase one you attract users by providing a good service. Once they’re locked in, you squeeze them for all they’re worth by switching focus to business customers (advertisers). Once they’re locked in, you squeeze them by threatening to deny them access to the users on whom they now depend.

      • Nougat@fedia.io
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        3 months ago

        I had also described it elsewhere as the “suck all the value out before it’s dead” phase. They’re clearly no longer interested about growing the site; they’re just getting as much money as possible from their traffic and engagement history as possible now, because they know traffic and engagement is already declining.

  • paraphrand@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    It would be interesting if any large companies got behind promoting and endorsing federated media to get around this sort of situation.

    I suspect paying money is easier. And they probally assume their need to do so will be temporary. AGI will fix everything, right? Feel it. Feel the AGI.

  • sunzu@kbin.run
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    3 months ago

    Look at all the work we done… some 200million per year dude is selling it now…

    aint this grand?!

  • braindefragger@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Member when the web was starting out? We had dreams and ideas. Standards being written. Concepts about how to build out the web for maximum efficiency of sharing information. It was frowned upon to not include source. Low effort screenshots didn’t cut it. Best practices were always available and encouraged.

    I’m sure many of us remember those forks in the road as the web progressed. It was so clear when corporations starting having “ideas” where it was going to lead if we didn’t stand up for the “correct” way to internet.

    And now here we are. Ugh.

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I just started hearing about some Facebook at some point, and then some (it’s Russia) Odnoklassniki and Vkontakte and a few other spaces.

      These seemed to be the sites which lamers use to feel themselves relevant with that Internet thing. Leprosoria of the Web. Places where I wouldn’t go, even if I would sometimes go to porn sites, especially when depressed.

      Normal people would use LiveJournal and move from ICQ to XMPP and Skype. Skype voice calls (back then they were better with countryside radio link than now with GPON) were a miracle, so me and everybody around me moved to Skype.

      Then there was a moment when the Web suddenly died and everyone was on those social networks.

      I actually blame LJ and Skype. Technically these worked fine, but they were a gateway drug.

      LJ made it easy to have something like a personal webpage, only it wasn’t personal, it was in LJ. ICQ lost popularity when it fought alternative clients, there were no alternative clients for Skype at all and everybody got used to service providers dictating how people should use their service, imposing their client software.

      It’s still terrifying how that ICQ run was the last such run in modern Internet’s history. A company fucked around and found out. Nothing like that has happened since. That’s my canary.

    • boonhet@lemm.eeEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I don’t remember when it was starting out but I do remember the forums of the 00s as well as the overall online culture of the time. The fediverse is the closest I’ve gotten to feeling that again but obviously nothing will ever feel like that again because I’m an adult and all the sense of wonder is gone from the online world for me.

      At least here, we’re not on a platform owned by corporations.

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Remember when you had RSS with HUNDREDS of different websites and had your own personal little newspaper every day 🥲

    • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
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      3 months ago

      When the internet was new I thought that the spread of knowleege would raise up people’s awareness of things they had not been exposed to under the false assumption that the vast majority of people where reasonable, but uninformed.

      Nope, I was wrong. At best a slight majority are reasonable with varying levels of ignorance and the rest are willfully ignorant.

      • Crismus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        In the early years, I learned a lot of new things. The late 90’s had so much hope for the web and learning new things. I remember falling I to rabbit holes a lot more often back then because it wasn’t about video essays and persuasive videos.

        I miss all of those old text based chatting and the friends I made on Yahoo local chat rooms. Somedays I wish the social media sites run by algorithms didn’t surpass those old forums and chat rooms.

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Internet is just a new form of mass media to control the minds of people who aren’t paying attention

  • rhabarba@feddit.orgEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Reddit says web clients have visited their public, free website without permission.

    Fixed.

  • Evotech@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Reddit only exists because of an open net and sharing content, noe they just suddenly determined that an open net is bad.

    A common strategy, but it fucking sucks.

    Fuck you reddit.