I’ve seen some people getting genuinely uncomfortable at the recent discourse. Just wanted to point out there’s more than one kind of weird.

    • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      That sucks. I’m sorry to hear that. As a life long vet of the Depression Campaigns, i can relate. I don’t have any magic words that i can drop that’ll magically make things better, but i wish i did. If you don’t have someone to talk to, you can bend my ear.

          • Biezelbob@programming.devEnglish
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            3 months ago

            yeah you kinda want to feel something again(?)

            Had to go trough several drugs before hitting the jackpot, although I’m also on other meds.

            totally get it though

          • arality@programming.dev
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            3 months ago

            I know this is anecdotal, but when I was first diagnosed with depression they put me on medicine that made me devoid of feelings like your explanation. Well fast forward a few years and a new doctor. Turns out I’m bipolar, and being on the right medication has been SO helpful and such a night and day difference.

  • Unbecredible@lemm.eeEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Weird just means unusual (with slight negative connotations already) . So to use “weird” as an unqualified insult is to say that being unusual is a negative thing in itself. Which echoes the sentiment behind things like xenophobia and such. That’s why people are uncomfortable with this line of political attack, imo.

    To say “there’s good weird and bad weird” doesn’t say much more than that there are ways of being unusual that you view positively and those that you view negatively. But that’s obvious and doesn’t resolve the issue I mentioned before.

  • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    More offended by people using the word “discourse” to describe the relentless, terminally-online, America-centric shit-slinging.

  • Glide@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Imo, the neat thing about this current “weird” discourse is that only right-wingers could ever find it genuinely insulting. Any sensible, self-actualized human being who isn’t obsessing over the sex and genetalia of others is like “haha, yeah, I am kinda weird”.

    But the right wing is built on the misconception that they are “normal” and everything else is a problem. They’re the only ones that could ever be bothered by being told they’re weird, because it deconstructs the very foundation of their beliefs. Without the core of “we are normal and everyone else is causing problems in our normal society” backing up their every decision to threaten others over the religon, sexuality or life choices of others, they instead have to face reality: it’s normal to be a little weird, and it’s normal for some of that weird stuff to take root and become normal. And to refuse it and obsess over it is, in its own way, kinda weird.

    • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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      3 months ago

      Exactly, exactly! To keep it going, I think their whole worldview is based on what’s “natural” and how their shitty behaviour and policies and ideas are normal and natural, because they view stereotypes about human nature (esp re sex, gender roles, race, family structures, etc) like these unshakeable institutions that they’re powerless to influence in any way.

      When really it’s like, nah it hasn’t always been like this, and it will continue changing, forever.

      Further, we can do the very difficult work of trying to change it in a way that benefits more of us!

    • kshade@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      The unease doesn’t come from the word itself being a grave insult but, for example, from being bullied for being “weird”.

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    3 months ago

    weird weird.

    I’m not good, or bad, i’m a force of chaos that cannot be reckoned with, only conceptualized.

    Also. what kind of discourse are we talking about?

    • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      I’ve heard it a few times recently, then saw something posted in i think the autism instance? Dunno, not sure which it was, but this popped into my head and thought it illustrated it neatly.

      • Crikeste@lemm.ee
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        3 months ago

        Unrelated but I just wanted to say thanks for giving me the word ‘instance’. Been struggling to find a word besides ‘subreddit’ 😖

        I’m a fucking idiot: community is not a hard word lmao

        • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca
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          3 months ago

          Community and Instance actually have a hard meaning here. Communities are the equivalent of subreddits, while instances are the equivalent of reddits. Reddit only had the one instance of course.

          I wonder if mastodon has communities. Or is there a more twitter thing they do?

          • Crikeste@lemm.ee
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            3 months ago

            I think mastodon is more akin to Twitter, but I can’t really say as I haven’t used it. Thanks for that clarification though, it is a pretty important distinction.

        • 5C5C5C@programming.dev
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          3 months ago

          I think the point is that Republicans detest the idea of being weird no matter what, so they would rage at the suggestion of being a good weird anyway. To them “good weird” is an oxymoron, even though they are actually very weird and not in any kind of good way.

          • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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            3 months ago

            yeah that makes sense. i was envisioning them attempting to ‘own’ it by jumping into ‘good weird’ with both feet.

            but as someone else pointed out also, thats prolly giving them too much sefl-aware credit

        • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.worldOP
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          3 months ago

          I get that. I don’t think they’re capable of that level of self reflection. To them, weird is BAD. It’s being a part of the “out” group, which is anathema to them.

    • Glide@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      It doesn’t matter. Convservativea cannot accept the notion of a “good weird” because it removes all justification from their beliefs. The whole conservative belief system is founded on the notion that there is an effective normal and that normal must be protected from those that would upset it.

      They cannot say they’re the “good kind of weird”, because that means admitting that weird can be good. And if weird can be good, they have no ground to plant the roots of their beliefs in. They have to be normal, because if they’re weird, all the time they spent attacking others for being weird in the defence of what’s normal doesn’t make any sense. Calling themselves the good kind of weird is a complete 180 on what it means to be conservative and alienated a massive portion of their voting base who only vote conservative because they see people who are “just like them”, not weirdos who are willing to redefine sex and gender, or question historical narratives.

      The “weird” angle of attack has been so effective because it deconstructs the very notion of what it means to be a conservative. Giving them an out through the “good kind of weird” doesn’t change that.

    • InputZero@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Came here to say that. Quirky weird is wanting to wear a propeller hat as an adult because it’s fun and no one can tell you no. Creepy weird is wanting to wear a propeller hat to predate on children. They are not the same.