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minus-squaremy_hat_stinks@programming.devlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·6 days ago100k USD per engineer assumes they’re exclusively hiring from US and Switzerland, that’s not a general “developed country” thing. US is an outlier.
minus-squareoce 🐆@jlai.lulinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·6 days agoI’m talking about the cost of the engineer for the company, not the salary, which is less relevant here. In some EU countries, the salaries may be lower, but the taxes are higher to pay for the social system, so the cost for the company is similar.
minus-squareTja@programming.devlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·6 days agoUS and Switzerland are way over 100k. For Netherlands and Germany 100k is a good approximation for the company costs for a senior SWE.
minus-squaremy_hat_stinks@programming.devlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·edit-25 days agoI did already back up the claim with a source, but okay: US: Senior 128k USD, mid-level 94k USD CH: Senior 118k CHF (~139k USD), mid-level 95k CHF (~112k USD) DE: Senior 72k EUR (~80k USD), mid-level 58k EUR (~65k USD) NL: Senior 69k EUR (~77k USD), mid-level 52k EUR (~58k USD) Yes, US and Switzerland are outliers.
minus-squareTja@programming.devlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·5 days agoYeah, 80k gross for the worker creates close to 100k costs for the employer.
100k USD per engineer assumes they’re exclusively hiring from US and Switzerland, that’s not a general “developed country” thing. US is an outlier.
I’m talking about the cost of the engineer for the company, not the salary, which is less relevant here. In some EU countries, the salaries may be lower, but the taxes are higher to pay for the social system, so the cost for the company is similar.
US and Switzerland are way over 100k. For Netherlands and Germany 100k is a good approximation for the company costs for a senior SWE.
I did already back up the claim with a source, but okay:
US: Senior 128k USD, mid-level 94k USD
CH: Senior 118k CHF (~139k USD), mid-level 95k CHF (~112k USD)
DE: Senior 72k EUR (~80k USD), mid-level 58k EUR (~65k USD)
NL: Senior 69k EUR (~77k USD), mid-level 52k EUR (~58k USD)
Yes, US and Switzerland are outliers.
Yeah, 80k gross for the worker creates close to 100k costs for the employer.