• Hello Hotel@lemmy.world
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    reply to me with youtube URLs videos, channels or playlists that you find interesting.

    optionally specify these tags so I can organize the data better
    • it’s video component is nesisary (VIDEO)
    • it’s video component is summerised by a single image (STILL)
    • it’s mostly talking (COMMENTARY)
    • it’s a person talking into a camera (FACE)
    • it’s music (MUSIC)
    • it’s a square thumbnail or video (SQUARE)
    • Its a 4 by 3 thumbnail or video (4BY3)
    • high resolution video (HIRES)

    Ive been archiving for years and this looks like it may be the final clean batch I can produce. Feel free to specify other tags that may be useful and I will add them.

  • Freefall@lemmy.world
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    Let’s make an actual useful AI that detects ads and muted/blacks out the screen during ads. Haha

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    When Twitch this I rented a VPS in Russia that costs me $3 a month. I now route all my traffic through it and have no ads in Twitch (and im assuming YT too now?)

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    I’m really curious if they can make video injection of ads cost effective.

    It feels like mangeling video streams into one, potentially re-encoding the video as they go… sounds expensive

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      Video encoding works by combining key frames, the whole picture and delta frames, what and how it changed. As long as you swap the stream at a key frame there is no need for a reencoding.

  • dan@upvote.au
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    The article makes it sound like a new concept, but it’s a very old approach for adding ads to video streams.

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      I just hope they don’t start running commercials during the streams like quarter and half screen commercials over top the existing content. A lot of TV channels started doing that when DVRs first popped up.

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    I’m surprised it took them so incredibly long to crack down on adblockers.

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      They used to still be only a small percentage until the entire internet got completely decimated by ads in the past 5 years.

  • GHiLA@sh.itjust.works
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    Oh well.

    YouTube can be past-tense. There’s a million places to post a video these days. Spill out some whiskey and read a book. Fuck em.

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      Agreed, it’s just hard to find a suitable replacement for many things like tvs, since there’s a lack of alternative apps for other platforms on things like roku or LG tvs

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    Only if premium did not have ads. They show you ad videos as if they’re part of your “recommendations”. They also allow creators to get sponsorships within videos. So even the premium experience isn’t really ad-free and they tout that shit everywhere.

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      i would consider paying for premium if they broke out the payments properly, i don’t fucking want youtube tv youtube music or whatever other bullshit is attached, just fucking get rid of the ads and charge me like 5 bucks a month and i’ll fuck off.

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      As a YT Premium subscriber I really don’t mind the sponsor sections. Money goes to the creator and a few taps and I’m back to watching. Also, I think outright banning sponsor segments is going to make creators more creative in a bad way…

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        I totally understand your views, although I’m paying this platform to not show me ads, that money should then go to the creators if they have to insert ads into their videos for some change. This is the platform’s fault.

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          I mean, it’s very easy money given you already have a channel and a name dor youself. What would YT have to pay creators to not care about such easy money?

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      I remember subscribing to YouTube Red when it first came out (and had a reasonable price), literally the first video I watched after subbing included an ad for YouTube Red in it. I was so fucking pissed lmao, thank goodness for SponsorBlock.

  • tomjuggler@lemmy.world
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    So AdGuard works on the YouTube website. I haven’t been there for some time - I use 2 other methods to watch YouTube ad-free.

    1. Newpipe - Android app that works by parsing the website, will probably be affected?
    2. YouTube Kodi add-on - works with Google YouTube API, I was wondering when this loophole is going to be plugged…

    Anyone with knowledge of the matter care to comment? So far my YouTube watching is still ad-free.

    I also run pi-hole in front of my WiFi. Nothing gets through. Or will it?

    I noticed some podcasts these days have random server injected ads - usually the same ad repeated 2 or 3 times, is this going to be my video stream soon?

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      use ublock origin, so far it’s been pretty much problem free.

      Outside of this, use something like yt-dlp to run your own jellyfin instance or something.

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      Nothing gets through. Or will it?

      You would have to block the video itself to get rid of them

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      If ads are injected server-side like the article is taking about, your downloads in Newpipe and Kodi are going to have the ads in them.

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      Pihole will not work because it works on the DNS queries. With server side injection it’s gonna be tougher to block ads, but I’m sure we’ll find a way

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      Most of the ads we see on our Roku Tv are political. I don’t know about Temu’s but I’d rather get non-political ads.

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    So, instead of iterating the ancient concept of frontal assault ads towards something less intrusive and more engaging, they go the black mirror path of force feeding ads?

    Sounds about right regarding the decision makers have as much creativity as a Vogon.

    Man I really hate those suit MBA circlejerk idiots in positions of power.

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      The sad thing is they inject ads to your feed even if you have premium. I keep seeing product videos in my feed named “Meet the x product”. Youtube and google is just shameless and I’m pretty sure they’re breaking a bunch of laws.

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        So YouTube Premium is as worthless as I thought. Google was never great in drawing recognizable lines between their free offering and paid… and it seems their solution is to make everything as shitty as possible and barely fix the stuff they fucked up.

        Let’s wait until Google Maps gets ads … routing already seems fishy to me.

        Thanks for your brief description… only shows me that my next Phone won’t be a Pixel.

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          Definitely avoid Pixels. They look better than most Android devices in terms of software imo, although it’s because they’re really locking down the firmware similar to iOS, which breaks the purpose of using Android anyway. Also the processor on the Pixels are even behind 5-6 year old phones.

          Btw…Google Maps has ads already, the square icons are all ads paid by the place owners. Routing is fishy yes, because they’re actively routing people through different routes in order to collect data for their algorithms.

          The biggest reason I still use Google products is there is no alternative and they fully know this.

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            I got a Pixel 6 because I wanted to try something new … it will probably be my last Pixel.

            If there is a phone out there with Lineage/Cyanogen (or whatever it’s called now) out of the box with decent HW, I would prefer that.

            The last 2 years changed Google. They feel hollow like a blimp. Looking big but no real oomph any more.

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    Quick! Everyone! Hurry up and climb over one another to proclaim your hatred for YouTube and their practices so that you can have more time to go watch more YouTube videos!

    😆

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        Oh I’ve known. The difference is I’m not dumb enough to continue using shit I hate.

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          Unfortunately you’re kind of stuck if what you want to watch is only being uploaded there. That’s why these alternatives exist. So you can watch their shit without contributing back to the site.

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            If what I want to watch is one a platform that I despise so much that I feel I need to whine about it online- and is a platform that takes advantage of people that create content for it to the point that it makes it to headline news articles-

            Then no, I’m going to tell you that I’m not stuck at all. Those that feel they have no choice are.

            I have enough strength of conviction to not support such a thing because I’m not weak-minded and addicted to watching videos like they are.

            I can very easily walk away from anything I feel is hurtful to others, or just plain shitty. Basically, I just find it easy to not support things I hate.

            You’d think this would be a simple and popular way to be- but ironically, if you suggest people stop using a shit platform that hosts things they like, like YouTube- they will turn on you in a second- but if you hate something that offers them nothing in return, like Norton Antivirus well… that’s just fine.

            Kids are fucking weird.

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    So if YouTube is now serving up the ads directly to me, does that mean they’re finally liable for the content of those ads? Can we have them investigated for all the malware, phishing, illegal hate speech, etc.?

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      no because of sec 230 and publisher rights, they were still directly serving them before, the only difference now is that it’s tied into the video stream directly, rather than broken out as a second one.

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        In the past they have always said that they aren’t transmitting the content and so it’s the responsibility of the transmitter of the data. Now the content at least appears to be coming from youtube not the advertisers. So I’m curious if that’s enough to make it fall under section 230 which would require that they make a good faith effort to remove “objectionable” content.

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      No, at least not in the USA. They’re still protected under Section 230, which makes them immune from liability of third-party content on their platform.

      now serving up the ads directly to me

      What do you think they were doing before? 🤔

    • shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Great, now it’s Russian roulette every time you hit that pause button. <clickPause> ¡BOOM ZERODAY MALWARE!

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      No, because that would be communism, and that killed 100 million people. You also think genocide is bad, aren’t you? And besides of that, if there were less regulations, you could make your own video platform to challenge Google’s monopoly!

        • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          I kind of inferred the /s by the end of the post, but respect that such inference isn’t universal. Also there are many /s comments that I wouldn’t infer if it wasn’t explicit.

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          Well… Communism is directly responsible for multiple famines that killed into the hundreds of millions. Then there are the inevitable purges that have taken millions of lives and hosts of terrors as well.

          You’re free to dispute history if you need to, and claim that theoretically communism is nice, but in practice, history tells us that living under communism reaaaalllyy sucks.

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            that’s like saying capitalism is directly responsible for school shootings because it happens all the time in the US. but no one’s dumb enough to claim that because that’s not how things work.

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              well, technically the USSR exported lots and lots of grain during the 30s famine. So.

              It’s still not perfect, but you could argue there was mismanagement there.

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            There are people here not from western europe or north america, we felt all of that and beyond with capitalism too. Do you think Asia and Africa, who received aid and support from the soviet union to free themselves from capitalist Europeans will fall for that ? Where did you arrive at ''multiple famines that killed into the hundreds of millions" ? Even the soviet famines of 1930s and chinese great famine ‘only’ killed at maximum intervals of estimation 9 and 50 millions each, and this article over-viewing all atrocities maxes at 150 million, with a low 10-20 million estimation, not hundreds of millions in famines alone.

            Are you paraphrasing that ‘Black Book of Communism’ shtick ? It is a propaganda tool not valid in actual academic research, even by liberals that are not fraudsters, because the author twists every single communist countries-adjacent deaths as ‘‘mass killing caused by communism’’, including brilliant takes like total number of abortions (ex: France, that practices 250.000 abortions per year must be enraged with a capitalist regime that killed 5 million people only in the 21st century !) and all WW2 eastern front deaths (so both the nazi germans and allies that invaded USSR and USSR soldiers and civilians killed count as ‘killed by communism’).

            Last but not least, the USSR had much higher GDP per capita and living standards than the average third world capitalist country (which is where the demographic majority of capitalist people live), so even if the USSR could not equate Switzerland, they achieved a good quality of life better than the world average.

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              Last but not least, the USSR had much higher GDP per capita and living standards than the average third world capitalist country (which is where the demographic majority of capitalist people live), so even if the USSR could not equate Switzerland, they achieved a good quality of life better than the world average.

              why would this be relevant? The US had a higher per capita GDP than the USSR and it was capitalist, surely that means that capitalism would be better here?

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          It’s not possible for everyone to just tell if it’s supposed to be sarcasm. ADHD makes it hard. A bad day makes it hard. A tiring day makes it hard.

          The downside of the misunderstanding isn’t just downvotes. It’s possibly a proliferation of misinformation and an impression that there are people who DO think that way.

          Being not serious while saying something grim is not a globally understood culture either. It’s more common and acceptable in the Western world as a joke.

          So… call it accessibility, but it’s just more approachable for everyone to just put an “/s”.

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          The problem with pretending to be a dumbass on the Internet, is it’s almost impossible to outdo the professionals.

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          Reading comprehension is for people who paid attention in school. Nerds.

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      Well it’s what people want. No one even is complaining about the ads wants to pay for anything. And stuff costs money no matter what people choose to believe. Creators need to eat YouTube has costs. Money has to come from somewhere.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        maybe if youtube didn’t club itself over the head with the adpocalypses that happened, they wouldn’t be in a position right now where every youtuber ever just integrates their ads directly into their videos.

        They’re monetizing in other ways as well, memberships especially.

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        Honestly, if there was a remotely reasonably priced premium version of just youtube, no music or movies or whatever they try to shove down your throat nowadays, I would pay for that. But instead they rather price hike and make the ads more intrusive.