• mob@sopuli.xyzOPM
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      11 months ago

      Mfers love the drama. This is about to be the most commented thread in this communities history, and it’s literally moving us up the Sopuli community list.

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    the bottom line is Kanye seems to be in a very bad, very dark mental space.

    This shit has to stop. No more excuses about mental health, we be doing that since his mom left. It was “funny” when it was just some dumb tweets on Wiz, now not so much.

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        To just stop giving excuse for a man that keeps bullshittin everyone with the edgy nazi takes and dumb antisemitism shit because he had a rough year. This mf had a rough 15 years at this point, always ranting about wild nonsense.

        Personnaly I don’t buy the mental health no more.

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          Mental health issues are not excuses to hide behind, they are explanations and reasons for certain behaviors.

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      Unpopular take but most of the people separating the art are still contributing to his influence. Giving him streams and money will not benefit the world. I liked Kanye but not enough to assist a Nazi supporter, and honestly won’t even go through the minimal effort of pirating his stuff to guilt-free listen to a Nazi supporter.

      I get why people want to separate the art, really. I don’t blame them, especially if his music is important to them or helped in bad times. I just personally hate helping awful people cling onto power and relevance for the sake of the art, and can’t help but feel this way.

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        I’m not even saying I am anymore. His music used to be important to me and my friends and it’s sad that hearing songs I used to love just leaves a sour taste in my mouth now. Part of me wishes I could go back but it seems it’s too late at this point and he’s irreversibly gone off the deep end. It’s just sad. I can’t separate anymore.

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          Worst is hearing his line “I hate these n***as more than the Nazis”

          Just makes me sad

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        Whenever someone suggests separating art from artist, ask why no one listens to Lost prophets anymore

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          People do still listen to Lostprophets though. I didn’t really give a fuck about Ian Watkins pre-nonce days, and I give even fewer fucks about him now - but some of the songs are absolutely banging.

          It’s a big ol’ grey area.

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          “Separate the art from the artists” people don’t seem have an opinion on Charles Manson’s album for some reason

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      Hot take: I dont find separating the artist from the art at all challenging. Never once have I stopped enjoying art because of something the artist did / said. To me, who they are as a person has nothing to do with my opinion of their art.

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        Tbh, I think I have stopped enjoying Kanyes music because his personality has started overshadowing his music.

        Not on any moral grounds or anything. But his new music doesn’t do it for me, and his old stuff rapping just doesn’t land the same anymore.

        Them beats though

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        yet they’re the same thing. Art produced by a person is a morsel of this person

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          Nah, it’s obviously a piece of art. The fact many pieces of art transcend the creators original intent or message proves that once art is created, it is art, not a morsel of anyone.