A cruise line has apologized to its passengers after one of their ships arrived in the middle of a whale hunt where dozens of the animals were being slaughtered.
I mean, the cruise ship and its inhabitants are “guests” so I’m not sure where they get off telling the locals what to do?
While I certainly don’t condone hunting and killing whales (I also don’t eat meat for the same reasons, ie. animals shouldn’t have to suffer just so they can tantalize our taste buds), if these are local customs and it’s not harming the environment then maybe people shouldn’t be all high-and-mighty about it. Especially if they are chowing down on veal, lamb, or any meat for their meals.
Considering where these people live, I’m guessing historically speaking being fully vegetarian may not have been an option, so I wouldn’t really judge them too harshly for customs that were likely built around survival as much as anything else. But maybe I’m off base, just guessing really.
Yeah, if the people on the cruise genuinely cared about the environment, they wouldn’t be on a cruise, it’s one of the most polluting ways to see the world, it not only directly hurts the ocean and everything in it, and everyone who depends on it (and not many people actually do any more, and like you say, most of those on board are probably eating animals), but the air too, and in a potential shift to battery powered ships, whatever damage making those causes, as well as other shit like by bringing covid to islands.
Blaming the destruction of the ocean on islanders sustaining themselves and not on the companies dumping garbage and pouring sewage and oil and god knows what else in to the sea, and the people who literally profit from dong that (like from them, on the cruise), is quite foul.
i agree. some values are universal, like what should be considered cruel, but slaughtering pigs is pretty cruel too (i eat them anyways!). to me, what’s funny here is how privileged first world people just hate to see how the hot dog is made, so to speak.
it’s like privileged people hating to simply see homeless people in cities even though the system that makes people homeless is necessary to keep the high property values that they benefit from. the mere witness of the cruelty we benefit from in modern society makes the privileged one feel like a victim.
Indeed. The reason hunting whales etc. could be seen as unethical is because we were driving them to extinction, which doesn’t seem to be the case here. Any other lines that people draw for themselves about what animals we should / shouldn’t eat is completely arbitrary.
Yeah, I’m a vegan but I don’t bother telling you bloodmouths what I really think of you. It won’t change your mind and will only make me frustrated if I let myself give a shit.
I’m on the Faroe islands right now. This isn’t exactly a climate or geology fit for large scale farming, so you’re right in that being a vegetarian would have been rough here. Even now quality veggies seem hard to find in the small villages. Everything needs to be imported.
I mean, the cruise ship and its inhabitants are “guests” so I’m not sure where they get off telling the locals what to do?
While I certainly don’t condone hunting and killing whales (I also don’t eat meat for the same reasons, ie. animals shouldn’t have to suffer just so they can tantalize our taste buds), if these are local customs and it’s not harming the environment then maybe people shouldn’t be all high-and-mighty about it. Especially if they are chowing down on veal, lamb, or any meat for their meals.
Considering where these people live, I’m guessing historically speaking being fully vegetarian may not have been an option, so I wouldn’t really judge them too harshly for customs that were likely built around survival as much as anything else. But maybe I’m off base, just guessing really.
Yeah, if the people on the cruise genuinely cared about the environment, they wouldn’t be on a cruise, it’s one of the most polluting ways to see the world, it not only directly hurts the ocean and everything in it, and everyone who depends on it (and not many people actually do any more, and like you say, most of those on board are probably eating animals), but the air too, and in a potential shift to battery powered ships, whatever damage making those causes, as well as other shit like by bringing covid to islands.
Blaming the destruction of the ocean on islanders sustaining themselves and not on the companies dumping garbage and pouring sewage and oil and god knows what else in to the sea, and the people who literally profit from dong that (like from them, on the cruise), is quite foul.
i agree. some values are universal, like what should be considered cruel, but slaughtering pigs is pretty cruel too (i eat them anyways!). to me, what’s funny here is how privileged first world people just hate to see how the hot dog is made, so to speak.
it’s like privileged people hating to simply see homeless people in cities even though the system that makes people homeless is necessary to keep the high property values that they benefit from. the mere witness of the cruelty we benefit from in modern society makes the privileged one feel like a victim.
Indeed. The reason hunting whales etc. could be seen as unethical is because we were driving them to extinction, which doesn’t seem to be the case here. Any other lines that people draw for themselves about what animals we should / shouldn’t eat is completely arbitrary.
Yeah, I’m a vegan but I don’t bother telling you bloodmouths what I really think of you. It won’t change your mind and will only make me frustrated if I let myself give a shit.
Mockery is much better than outrage.
I’m on the Faroe islands right now. This isn’t exactly a climate or geology fit for large scale farming, so you’re right in that being a vegetarian would have been rough here. Even now quality veggies seem hard to find in the small villages. Everything needs to be imported.
Not harming the environment, just killing a couple of whales here and there!