Bear in mind that Antenna (the source of this info) has no access to internal Netflix metrics, only to opt-in consumer information. We won’t really know what’s going on with Netflix’s numbers until their next quarterly report.
This is a super important piece of the puzzle that no one seems to be talking about. It’s surface level at best
I wouldn’t be surprised if the kind of person who voluntarily participates in opt-in surveys like this has a different likelihood to get their own account in a situation like the Netflix password sharing crack-down.
I’m about to the point where I’m just going to go back to pirating. The value of streaming services was in their convenience. I was willing to pay money for that, but the more fragmented and complicated all of it gets, when I can just pay for 1 VPN and go to a site and click a few links…
Piracy can be pretty convenient too. There are some services that are a kind of a hassle to set up, but work really well once everything is configured. You can have one docker container running qbittorrent and set up so it’s only able to access the Internet through VPN, other containers running sonarr/radarr etc to automate the downloading, and one runing plex to organize and stream all the content.
I subscribe to several streaming services because the people who work on and create this content deserve to be paid, but often will watch something on my plex server rather than through the streaming site because it’s just more convenient. Also it’s nice to have local copies of that media in case it ever gets removed from the streamer in the future.
That’s what I’ve got too. Family and friends are slowly catching on the more I talk about it haha. Got a few friends and my whole family on my Plex server now. It’s a fun side project/hobby too imo
The recent loss of Rarbg has been pretty bad for Piracy community. Big shuffles on the internet lately.
I’m honestly sort of suspicious of this report. I wouldn’t be surprised if the information is misrepresented or outright fabricated.
I am not really that surprised. I think a lot of people use netflix and just didn’t get a sub, because why pay for something that is free. I think a lot of people used the same account then grew up, moved out, moved on and just kept using the same account. Now that they cannot, they are happy to pay for it. My wife and I have not been kicked off my parents account yet. I do not know how long it takes to kick in. But, once we do, we may subscribe again, but it is not a rush as we are watching a lot of disney plus at the moment.
Of course, I did figure that at least some folks would get their own, but the growth is much higher than I was expecting. It’s also a death knell of sorts that will start a feeding frenzy for other streaming services I think though. In a few years, it may not be an option for ANY service to share passwords.
Yeah, someone on Tumblr has pointed out that the data does not actually support the headline here. The spike actually started just before the crackdown and immediately dropped.
It coulr be misleading, but outright lying here wouldn’t be particularly useful since they have a duty to report truthfully on their finicial results.
E: nvm I just realized the source isn’t Netflix themselves.
Plex + Sonarr/Radarr and you won’t need Netflix anymore ;)
Jellyfin if you don’t want to pay at all
That’s what I moved over to a few months ago, I will say…it was a challenge to set up but it’s been fantastic so far. Have you by any chance automated downloads via trakt TV lists?
Yeah! I also use Overseer to manage library requests and automate those downloads.
The other streaming services will undoubtly follow this trend now that Netflix has shown it works.
Hot take but I think ultimately this will work out for them. Nobody is going to cancel their sub over this, because whoever is paying isn’t losing anything.
The people who lose access to the account might not sign up, but it doesn’t exactly hurt Netflix if they don’t, they weren’t paying anyway.
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I canceled mine at the beginning of the year. For me it represented a 5x increase in the cost of the platform. But I agree overall, it’s probably a slight positive for them in the short term (I’m skeptical its worth losing mindshare in the long run).
No idea how accurate this report is. Either way people online tend to be a vocal minority. The vast majority of people using Netflix either aren’t on Reddit or other discussion forums, or are simply lurkers who never comment. I find that people that do comment tend to be doom and gloom when it comes to these sort of things. That applies to me too, as I certainly won’t buy Netflix due to their content.
But Netflix is large enough that it will probably be fine for quite some time. Even so I do think streaming is declining rapidly due to too many services and studies have shown that people do pirate more when accessing content becomes tedious. It’s all a matter of comfort.
Yeah, not surprising tbh. They tested the change in smaller countries like NZ first, which allowed them to determine if it was worth doing the same elsewhere.
Password sharing is really common, but I don’t think enough people realise - if they give a shit about what they use and where it comes from, they’re the minority. That goes for almost any service, not just streaming. The people willing to change their habits to protest are always going to be less than the entrenched people who can be pushed, inch by inch.
Most Netflix users just want something to watch with minimal effort and without having to try or think about it. So if the password doesn’t work, they shrug, they accept it, they make their own account, and their routines stay the same. In fact I’m willing to be that of the new Netflix users, a majority of them are probably also subscribed to at least one other streaming service, too.
Convenience is a commodity, and users have different price points.
My family is paying nearly $30/month for Netflix now, on top of paying for cable TV, Max, and Amazon. I currently pay for Hulu and Disney+ and share it with the family, but I really hope password crackdowns are not the norm.
If they are, I’m gonna have a good talk with them about other options. Just throwing money away because “Well what if I want to watch something on that platform one night and I don’t have it” is precisely how these vampires want people to feel - the fear of lack of access.
If you don’t vote with your wallet on the Netflix one, crackdowns will become the norm
Agreed. The Netflix one is out of my control as I don’t pay for it. So this discussion may be inevitable.
I think there will be an initial spike of signups, but over the long term the cancellations may outweigh the signups and subscriptions could decrease. Especially if they don’t have another hit show like Stranger Things or Squid Game etc.
Good luck getting one soon as long as they refuse to fairly negotiate with the WGA. SAG-AFTRA already has a strike authorisation so we may be seeing that soon too, depending on how their closed-door negotiations go this week.
The sad reality most of us who comment on social media and forums forget is we are just a vocal minority, majority of consumers don’t care for these outrages unfortunately. If the end product works good enough for most people then they will keep it/use it.
majority of consumers don’t care for these outrages unfortunately
See also: Preordering video games
I usually pre-order PC games that come with a pre-order bonus on Steam because I can just refund it in two hours of playtime/2 weeks in library if it sucks. If it doesn’t, well, I was going to buy it anyway. I know game prices are ridiculous now and I’m buying far less than I used to but being able to just refund it is a game-changer.
Preordering online video games is such a rip off.
The general consumer is an idiot. It’s basic psychology. Rewarding behavior increases it’s likelihood. Soon other streaming services will follow.
I have a tendency to think this way when I see this kind of disappointing news, but I think it’s a good idea to resist the temptation. Assuming everyone that chooses this particular streaming service is an idiot because of something that for me is an issue but for them either doesn’t matter or more likely still, isn’t even on their radar, well I guess it just helps reinforce a distorted world view that assumes everyone is or should be like me and the people I talk to online.
Still though, I was definitely hoping this would bite them in the arse and it’s a shame to see them come out of this smelling like roses somehow.
BuT tHe FrEe MaRkEt WiLl HoLd BuSiNeSsEs AcCoUnTaBlE!
Oh the late stage capital slogan is now “what the market will bear”
I only consume content the way God intended : Torrent
Absolutely the best way of consuming content, if you have access to the better trackers.
Praise be
I only use Netflix currently, as it comes with my phone plan. The convenience factor is nice, but I find the content library a bit lacking. I must explore Plex at some point.
Check out Jellyfin when you’re looking at your options for something like Plex. I love it.
How would you say Jellyfin compares to Plex? Just today installed Plex server so definitely early enough in the process to hop to a difference media server 😁
Jellyfin does most everything Plex does but without a pay wall.
Plex is like, slightly more complete and robust and simpler but Jellyfin is so so so close to a complete replacement of Plex. Jellyfin also has some nice features that Plex doesn’t.
Having given it a try I’ve also found Jellyfin more responsive, and has all the features I’m needing… seems like a fit for me :)
They’re both very similar, but they do have important differences.
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Plex has a sleeker UI that is better for our less tech-savvy friends and family. I don’t mind JF’'s UI, but Plex definitely wins in this department.
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Plex is easier to access from outside your home network, especially for those of us who do not have full control of our own internet. With Plex, you just open a port, specify it for Plex, and it takes care of the rest. JF on the other hand requires the user to specify the IP (or domain if you have one).
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The first two points both result in a better experience for the end user as well. I don’t need to hold anyone’s hand when I invite them to the server, they can do it on their own. JF may not be as simple for some users.
These are the reasons why I personally use Plex over JF. However, JF is still worth considering. You don’t need to pay to unlock any features, it’s all FOSS, and imo it’s more stable than Plex. It all comes down to personal preference and your situation. Hope that helps a bit!
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Last I checked (which admittedly was a few years ago), Plex was the only thing that could add subtitles to something being Chromecast’ed. That’s the primary way I watch things on my actual TV, and since apparently I’m deaf AF and need subtitles for everything, Plex was the best choice. The others would’ve required processing stuff with handbrake ahead of time.
Bought a lifetime subscription though and it’s been well worth it.
There’s apparently a plug-in for Jellyfin to do the subtitles download thing… haven’t tried it though
Not even just the downloading–Chromecast needs some weird encoding or something, apparently?
In my android TV, the plex app updated the UI making the home screen showing more outside content instead of my own shows in my harddrive. Maybe there is a setting somewhere I need to fiddle.
Took the chance to change to Jellyfin, did not change any folder structure and it worked fine. Most importantly my shows show up in home screen
Plex live tv is free and has a few good channels too. I watch that 24/7 Modern Marvels channel all the time while I work from home.
hardly use Netflix, will of a movie we wanna watch is available on it (rare) and it’s my parents’ anyways so we’re gonna get locked out sooner or later. Glad I just decided to build a NAS to make the whole torrenting > media server pipeline easier and with plenty of space
