Dude there is a universe worth of difference between eating at a restaurant and being asked to tip like, a good truck or some shit.
Baristas post on their social media about giving non-tippers decaf all the time.
I’m completely unaware of this, and this is stupid.
You tip people who live on tips for a living, and in places of high, but not elite, quality.
It’s “how little can I tip before they tamper with my food”
Normal people never, ever think this.
Uh… what about the people actually paying the tip? How on earth is it beneficial for the person paying more money for the level of service they should be getting regardless? How is that extra $3 more important to the server than to the person losing it?
This is the crux of the argument. You’d be paying this anyway, because servers won’t take the job for less money. No matter how you slice it, you’re spending this same amount of money.
You’re fine with some industries getting minimum wage, you just think you personally deserve more
I currently make over 6 figures and am no longer serving, because I’m nearing 40, so yes obviously some jobs are worth more than others.
I hope one day you learn to redirect your frustration to the cheap ass boss who thinks an hour of your sweat is worth $2 so he can keep the other $8
This is not how any business works, much less restaurants.
You’re not in favour of tipping because it’s the morally right thing to do, or because you altruistically support hard workers. You’re in favour of it because you personally make a shit ton more money.
I’m in favor of it because it helps everyone involved. There is no one that tipping is bad for.
This is really the heart of it. I’m sorry but no role is more deserving of tips than another. Everyone deserves a living wage paid by their employer.
All wages are paid by consumers. If the price of going to a restaurant increases by 25% and servers aren’t tipped, I assure you that every person involved is having a worse experience
People will go to restaurants less, more restaurants will fail, fewer people will work as servers, and they’ll work longer hours (similar to BOH). You can see this played out in countries that do not tip - and also with jobs like catering that generally do not focus on topping for service.
What won’t happen is the restaurant owners themselves won’t be paying servers more from their own pocket. This is also observable anywhere tipping isn’t a thing
Idk what meme or podcast or whatever convinced people that tipping culture is bad, but absolutely none of the arguments make any sense. If they did, I could be persuaded, but most points are just completely ignorant of the reality of working in a restaurant and the rest seem like they’re specifically designed to manipulate you.
It’s on employers to pay their employees a fair wage
This one being the most obviously manipulative
As is this. I have no idea why people here are convinced tipping is somehow bad for employees and good for employers
It’s literally the same thing you just are more aware of it.
Servers make vastly more than min wage. I generally had $0 paychecks because taxes were higher than my hourly
It’s not about pity. It’s a socially accepted standard of certain service roles. Servers are generally against removing tipping because they make more by being tipped than they would hourly.
For every person that tips small, someone will inevitably tip over the expected value, generally more often than not. A flat 18% upcharge on food to pay for a server is generally robbing the server.
You literally always pay the wages of the people that work for companies.
I’ve made more as a server than most Americans make doing “appropriately compensated” work. Hitting median wage for your area as a server is easy in 95% of the US.
Their employer is treating them like a tipped employee, which is so embedded into society’s fabric that we have a separate tax code for it.
You not liking that is not any different from you liking a given law. You’re free to not participate, but expect there to be consequences, and one of those is for people to assume you’re intentionally being an asshole, not protesting a perceived injustice.
You can move within your country and your experience will be entirely different. You can’t in China, because it’s an authoritarian hellstate.
I agree that Republicans are authoritarians, and that sucks. I also acknowledge that you likely view hierarchies as inherently authoritarian and that we’ll likely not see eye to eye on where to draw lines. Also fine - that’s what liberal ideologies want, is that disagreement.
But to compare China positively with the US in terms of authoritarianism is, frankly, a bit silly.
My guy, I’m living in a state that tried to arrest a woman for removing an ectopic pregnancy.
Yep, and your state voted for that. My state amended it’s constitution to prevent this situation, also through voting.
In China, you don’t get that option, because China is an authoritarian state.
Authoritarian doesn’t simply mean “bad” even though authoritarianism is bad.
You know what’s not a sign of an authoritarian state? An appeals court overturning a bad verdict.
Crystal Mason’s contentious illegal voting conviction must be reconsidered, criminal appeals court says
You should really click the links you use as evidence.
China wants people to move from rural areas to cities, which is why they forcibly move them from rural areas to cities.
China is an authoritarian state that had a literal one-child policy until recently
Yes, your daughter has had the quintessential American child experience which is most likely going to underscored by taking place in a western-flavored cis heterosexual context
Man if you knew me IRL you’d find this fucking hilarious.
My daughter has had crushes since kindergarten and absolutely no one has asked her if she “has a boyfriend yet”
Kids develop crushes. You don’t need to make it weird.
I very much like Mayo Monkies myself lol
Yeah the only issue here is “Caucasians” is roughly similar in emotional weight to “native Americans.”
Shirt should say like, “crackers” or something
You’re not going to hurt my feelings by using words improperly lol
We’re talking about astroturfing, so yes it is quite literally the difference.
You’re not guaranteed a place where your opinions are the only ones expressed, ever in life.
Pandas only evolutionary advantage is being adorable. It is like cows being delicious - without that, they’d simply cease to be.
Holy duck I love pandas.