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Don’t infantilize Netanyahu and the IDF. They’re doing the genocide. Bernie is opposing a person that wants total immunity from the law and is advocating for what he believes even still.

There are more things to consider than Israel Hamas. Don’t be the left wing equivalent to pro lifers. Hyped up on a wedge issue to the extent you let yourself get taken advantage of by the rhetoric of the worst actors.

Interesting that the chart starts in 1948. It seems to miss that immediately prior 80% of Palestinians were forcibly removed from their lands and/or massacres by Zionist settler militias.

Next you’ll tell me that the population swap between Greece and Turkey was a genocide too, considering how you count the migrations of Jews that occurred after Zionists murdered and purged as many Arabs as they could from Palestine.

The conflict has existed longer than the Israeli state and ignoring that time period only obfuscates the reality of the situation.

Reductive purity testing won’t end the genocide you know. Do you know the position of the Republican candidate on Gaza? (hint: it’s an example of actually advocating for genocide)

Refusing to take steps to reduce harm enables the worst outcome and there are also other issues besides Gaza that exist beyond this wedge issue.

You should actually watch the video because you might be surprised that he directly talks about Gaza and states his position (no more money for Israel if they can’t control their violent impulses). You know, instead of spouting off like a blind partisan.

Yeah I hate when that happens

Just bouncing down the pool. So cute!

There’s plenty of sense in calling out a genocidal corrupt religious extremist. We don’t need to bring up Hitler liking dogs when talking about them.

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And the homes get torn down and minorities oppressed regardless. I’m sure they’ll take some comfort from you telling them that it’s not the west doing this though.

Seems to be doing just fine as part of the oppressor class in India. There’s a whole world beyond the US, Europe and Australia.

Donbas isn’t comparable. The government in Taiwan has had a continuous existence since before the CCP.

If the rebellious territories of the Donbas was actually a preexisting government that had all the rest of its territory taken in a civil war you might be onto something. In reality Ukraine gained sovereignty from imperial USSR and now imperial Russia wants to take it over again.

I guess that’s fair. I went a bit too broad for the specific topic at hand. Didn’t notice it was exclusively about one server.

Sorry for derailing.

I was blocked because their insult didn’t land and they got upset. If you want to keep looking into it you’ll see, I’m referring to a real phenomenon and how it can affect the success of activism.

Honestly though blocking me for a good faith comment and providing a source kinda backs my point to be honest.

They’re lying about my position for no discernible reason aside from poor comprehension. I’d recommend you read what I actually wrote.

No I didn’t? What? I was referring to people with bigoted beliefs and cited a real psychological phenomenon. Don’t lie about what I said for validation.

The subject of your post was tangentially about correcting bigots so that’s what I’m talking about.

Actually it’s a well established psychological phenomenon:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.2466/09.02.10.CP.1.17

Got any actual response to my point or just more arrogant snark?

It’s no one’s job to do anything. But if you want to achieve real world results you have to work with the psychology of real world humans. This isn’t a game with an even playing field, it’s real life where people that pursue truth have to work way harder than those that peddle lies.

It’s a completely understandable sentiment because it’s an inherently unfair dynamic, no argument there. But if you want to change things you have to change people and that requires acknowledging that human minds are resistant to corrections and get even more obstinate in the face of hostility. Especially when there’s a whole political movement of reactionaries that will lie about you to get their way.

Not everyone is worth the effort of course, some are too dogmatically attached to their beliefs and others are just contrarian assholes that like hurting others. But the existence of close minded assholes doesn’t mean they are the only people that exist.

You have, LLMs don’t read because they aren’t intelligent or alive. They aren’t comparable to humans.

Show me in the US where there are minorities being paraded through the streets and gang raped. Show me the lynchings happening in the US right now.

Fuck if with your what about bullshit. I can imagine you responding in a similarly flippant manner about a similar occurrence in Rwanda. Because you only care about things to score ideological points.

People can agree on things you know. Assuming I’m an alt shows that you’d rather engage in conspiratorial thinking to act like there’s some threat rather than a more benign assumption that two different people on this website could hold comparable opinions, especially after the news coming from Manipur.