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  • Pretty much this. How many artists did you follow on, say, reddit? There were so few on there, and those that were there mainly linked to alternate social media and just used reddit to get engagement. Lemmy is probably the most approachable activitypub interface (we all remember trying to find the damn content on mastadon/bluesky…) and it’s just not big or established enough to be worth trusting. Hopefully that will start changing soon as more people hop over from the myriad other sites, we seem to be past the critical point for new users, but it just takes time.










  • Warl0k3@lemmy.worldtoScience Memes@mander.xyzHoney
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    15 days ago

    Very poor word choice on my part, I will freely admit that. The veg population of inda in is roughly larger than the entire US population, which is the much more useful statistic. I’m also aware that the vast majority of people who eat a vegan diet do so for economic reasons. Sorry about that.




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    16 days ago

    This is a very common argument and it’s a little shortsighted, because the answer is broadly “yes”. Reducing the number of cows/chickens/etc in the world is a net positive, and would only require us to stop force breeding them like it’s some kind of degenerate poultry hentai. Allowing the species to reduce in population is only of benefit to the species (cough humans cough) and is overall desirable. Keeping some in zoos would be fine, maintaining the native wild populations is also a good plan, small scale farms (“family” or “hobby”) farms where they don’t brutalize the animals is also a feature of most vegan utopias. Take india, where most of the population is vegan: there are still cows on farms, cow-derived produce is still available, it’s just the cows aren’t kept in American-style stock farms.

    YMMV, and like any ideology there are other opinions with equally valid outlooks, this is just what I see most often. (full disclosure, I am not a vegan (there’s plenty of evidence to that in my post history), I just sleep with a lot of vegans and quite like chana masala)

    (There’s also a pretty… sane… subgroup that proposes ‘corrective breeding’; a process wherein we undo the destructive changes humans introduced to the species and return them to what would be found in their ‘natural’ state. “Contentious” is probably the best description.)


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    16 days ago

    “It’s complicated”.

    It’s the same category of dispute as the “eggs or milk can be vegan under certain circumstances” one. The argument is that rescued farm animals have been so warped by human intervention that it’s actively harmful for you to not use their produce - dairy cows can in rare cases die, and otherwise will just be miserable, if left unmilked. Chickens lay too many eggs, and leaving unf. chicken eggs in the coop can lead to the chickens learning to eat their own eggs, so you have to remove them. (I don’t hold a position on these claims, I’m just reporting what I see come up in the argument.) Bees fall into the same sort of category, they’ve been so selectively bred that they now produce far more honey than they can possibly use, so removing and eating some of it helps to mitigate the negative impact that humans have had on the creatures.

    Regardless though: cows, chickens and bees are all still animals. I don’t think any vegans are gonna argue that one.



  • If you’ll allow an interpetation of their comment

    How dare you offer a counter interpretation to my interpretation you terrible person (I wish I didn’t need to include this but /s, you are not a terrible person)

    Taken on it’s own that’s a fair and totally valid criticism, I think the pushback is just due to conflating the two experiences as equally out of touch. Anyone who is 59 and has had a steady white collar career is going to lack first-hand experience with the current minimum wage work life, but Harris is a great deal more likely to be able to at least accurately conceptualize and empathize with what it’s like vs. someone who’s never worked a day in their life and was given $419 million dollars by their father.

    Conflating the two as the same is the issue, not casting skepticism on the impact of Harris’ teen summer job on her understanding of the challenges facing modern American families, and that’s the reason they’re being downvoted (imo).


  • If I had to guess, it’s both because their comment can be read as them asserting that someone who worked at McDonald’s… doesn’t know what working at McDonald’s is like, and because they’re asserting that the there’s no realistic difference in life experience between the white male child of a corrupt multigagillionaire and the black-indian female child of a research oncologist and an economics professor.

    Were either of them poor growing up? No. Are there many steps between “poor” and “having a gold toilet” that a person can be at? Oh you betcha, and suggesting there isn’t is either myopic or intentionally deceptive.