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  • Ha I see we found the carpenter in the group. Our CEO & myself are both current pipefitters bud. And you are correct, I was referring to the employer advisory board on which our CEO & myself sit for our company.

    Costs don’t matter as much if you’re operating in an area with sufficient union market presence. Go try starting a union outfit in Idaho and see if your “to hell with costs” ideology holds up lol.

    Most small mom & pop outfits fall into that category - their competition isn’t union so unionizing immediately puts them at a huge disadvantage. Outfits like Starbucks on the other hand, they can most certainly afford the added overhead burden.


  • Lfmao you have literally no clue what you’re talking about bud.

    You clearly have no idea how unions work and are simply regurgitating whatever incorrect idealistic bullshit you read on Facebook. You’re embarrassing yourself.

    Our trade union employer dues (pipefitters, iron workers, electricians, sheet metal tinknockers, carpenters, millwright, laborers and operators) add about 15p on top of our overhead burden. That is the hard cost we pay to the unions to employ union labor, period. Thats before we bill labor at union rates for our work, which are about 30-35p higher than a similar non union tradesman.

    Now we make some of that cash back on reduced workers comp rates (union labor is generally less prone to accidents on the job) but out the gate we are generally 30p more expensive than a similar non-union contractor, dollar for dollar.

    Conservative talking points lol. Grow up & put down your iPhone bud, not everything boils down to a political debate. These are just the numbers from somebody who literally does this every day for a living.

    I guarantee I am much more liberal than your uninformed ass lol. I agree everyone should argue for fair pay but folks most certainly need to be aware that it costs a company a lot of money to join a union. Most mom and pop companies aren’t union because they can’t afford it, especially when their competition isn’t unionized.