Both red and blue wants people in the middle east dead. Instead of picking a group of dead people over another what about voting for someone that isn’t a fucking murderer?

If you were from Yemen and the past 4 red and blue presidents bombed your country who would you vote for?

No idea who the greens are, vote for someone that isn’t a fascist or a genocide supporter, do not give them your support, they feed on your vote.

Voting for red and blue won’t either

20 years of bombing as the title of this thread implies is probably the cause they are angry with america. Ironically by taking position against israel genocide they are doing more than the west at preventing fanaticism as it has been said over and over that the indiscriminate bombing of gaza can only breed more terrorists. Whoever leads them is probably a scummy individual but just as much as Biden or the other 3 presidents that bombed them.

Houthis attacking ships is probably the consequence of the west fucking up with them to steal their territories and money.

“Yemen has been targeted by U.S. military action and bombings over the last four American presidencies — of George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, now Joe Biden.”

Red and blue are the same party, stop voting for them.

Not so much ago i was handled an iphone and i had no idea how to unlock it and use it as there aren’t any keys or instructions on the device. Joe Everyman is just used to it but in fact iphones are not easy to use. I think this really thread can also hint something, some OSS may not be easy to use or well supported but it is designed to be open and accessible. Proprietary software and standards puts you through a set of restrictions for example having to register and give away all your personal informations to download binaries.

Yes finland is just as imperialistic as the others they just are not in position to invade anyone. You don’t need an army to defend yourself from someone, people can defend themself much better without someone above them punishing them if they don’t follow authoritarian orders.

Whatever you are getting your hands into remember that there’s plenty of free alternatives and libre products available in the public domain. Supporting these is a good way to unsupport the closed counterpart.

I assume every nation with an army have imperialist aims

Sure it will as there’s a global race at arms. Russia has X weapons so we must have X+1, this degenerates to the point where you are spending all your money on destructive weapons and you have rockets in your garden waiting to be used. There are a thousand ways to fight off russia that don’t involve manufacturing more explosive such as for example not closing an eye on countries like turkey and emirates providing a workaround to russia sanction but guess what? Producing more weapons is a much greater deal for european leaders

You are contradicting yourself

Jokes aside, the fact remains: if Russia wins, you can expect weapons manufacturing to increase

That’s stupid logic, if you don’t want weapons manufacturing to increase you stop increasing it. The thread is about european leaders wanting to ramp up weapons not decreasing them

Anyone who aims to ramp up weapons is a thread for humanity

If your goal is freedom an army of people who’s individuallity has been removed won’t get you an inch close to it. If you look around yourself no actual army brings up freedom but war around the globe.

You have taxes to pay because someone say so and is forcing everyone with force to pay. If you don’t pay taxes you get labelled as a criminal and the guards come pick you and escort you to jail, even if the tax you don’t want to pay is unjust. If no one wanted to join the military you would have no wars to begin with, russia and israel which are two countries waging war and currently invading another country both have mandatory military service which you get punish if you don’t attend.

People can fight for freedom without being forced through a course that aims at taking away their individuality and self-will to turn them into checkers at rulers commands.

In your mind perhaps, in my country before they abolished military service you would get fined and sent to jail if you refused to go and they would teach everyone at last once how to shot a gun towards targets made to resemble human beings.

There are also plenty of tasks in the military that does not require weapons or killing

I’m sure someone in the military is tasked with cooking food for the whole army but in order to teach someone to prepare a meal you don’t put them through mandatory military service which main goal is to bake soldiers capable of shooting on command.

If you believe in forcing everyone with jail as a penalty to learn how to kill people and to obey superior orders you have a narrow definition of freedom.

Freedom is perpetuated through liberty not through constraints

In japan when a tsunami or earthquake hit the yakuza always help the locals, that does not make them any good.

Firefighters are not teach how to attack countries with biological weapons or psyop