• Walking Coffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I am quite confused. Can someone please explain why there seems to be hate towards those who like “dark humor”? I can understand that some try to hide behind the name when in reality they just want to bad-mouth minorities or their views, however I don’t see a problem with dark humor by itself.

    I may be missing something since a lot of the comments and the post itself mentions US politics where there is a lot of tensions.

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      It’s not against dark humor. It’s against what you identified: people hiding behind it or qualifying their bigotry as dark humor when they’re really just assholes.

      My humor is dark af and I take no offense because this isn’t about that.

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      2 months ago

      Dark humor itself isn’t the issue, however a majority of the people who claim they have “dark humor” are actually just massive bigots who don’t want to be called out so they mask their hate as thinly-veiled “jokes”

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        I can definitely see that being a thing sadly.

        So the post and comments refer to people who act in such a way mixed with the US politics because of how certain people make “jokes” about minorities that are oppressed and might be oppressed further in the worst case scenario, right?

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          Yep. It’s been a thing for a long time now, at least since 2001, but “it’s just a joke” became a way for bigots to disguise their hatred, and was picked up by “edgy” teenagers in places like 4Chan…which would later reveal as they got older that they were actually just bigots themselves all along or the joking had normalized that mentality in them to the point where they started believing it. It’s definitely not just an American thing, but Republicans in the US tend to be extremely sensitive and volatile emotionally (despite calling everybody else “liberal snowflakes” for how easily offended they claim they are) while being very emboldened by the events of the past decade or so to openly spew their hatred and bigotry.

          There’s a great stand-up bit about it by James Acaster from 2019 called What’s Wrong? Too Challenging For You!?

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        “No see the joke is that I unironically believe that you are inferior and should be treated worse than the dog I abuse because of my feelings of inadequacy, based solely on the fact that you are a homosexual” - Worst Sonic Character, Boomer The MAGA Hat

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          I wouldn’t call it a ‘very small minority’, personally.

          Most people who actually have dark humor don’t really have to bring it up in conversation that often, because they aren’t assholes who use it as an excuse to say slurs and hateful/hurtful things.

          The people who are normally quick to let you know that they have dark humor are the ones who use it as an excuse to say a bunch of gamer words, at least from my experience growing up.

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      Edgy humor has a butt to the joke, and/or the joke is made due to someone’s misfortune, at their expense. It’s inherently problematic in the sense that there’s a risk of offense to those who have been victims of similar misfortune. The solution, of course, is to be funny enough that the humor overpowers the offense and/or doesn’t focus the humor on being mean to the victims

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        2 months ago

        Indeed. You can laugh about anything, but not with everyone. At least, that’s how I see it.

        (Of course laughing here is meant as laughing at a joke and not laughing at the misfortune of others).

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    Political: Making fun of Donald Trump or Joe Biden

    Not political: Making fun of literally all women

    Chud brains are the smoothest objects on the planet

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        You think libs don’t get entirely bent out of shape anytime anyone dares make fun of their Lord And Savior Blue MAGA Joe Biden?

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            Bibi’s Bestie Brandon.

            You never see anyone wearing a stupid ass blue Joe Biden hat and “Cmon Man” Shirt do you? People vote for him because they have no choice, not because they like him.

            I’m going to vote for him and its going to hurt my soul to the fucking core. That’s just how bad Trump is for myself, family, and friends. I guess I’ll have to choose a genocide fundraiser to keep my friends from being fucking executed as ‘pedophiles’, or whatever.

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            There are absolutely Biden lovers and apologists out there out in the real world 😂

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    “biden crime family” is perfectly acceptable to say

    but comparing trump to hitler? Nah completely and morally off the table, ignore the fact that we’re literally calling the biden family a fucking mafia. And when we do unironically say it, it’s also satire, so you can’t complain.

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    Trump is cancer. But having Van Gogh memes and so on rolling on the socials just few hours after he was almost shot in he head an some guys end up dining was quite a shit-show to look at.

    Nevertheless to quote Trump regarding the victim of mass shooting: “Get over it”

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      God Americans are so sensitive, the only dead person in that story is the shooter. Donald will get over it

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      I dont know why this would be surprising. The man is a literal death dealer rapist who laughs at and mocks the misfortune of others. I wouldn’t ever expect any semblance of respect or sympathy towards him from the general public, not even for a second.

      People are going to roast him every chance that they get, and I think it would be naive to act like he doesn’t deserve the treatment.

  • 10_0@lemmy.ml
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    What’s the difference between the Taliban and the conservatives?

    Race

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        This one made my day. And I’m glad I scrolled back to find the coincidental poetry mentioned below and noticed the username 😆

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        In fact, they were the ones that invented cancel culture. Even helped the forming of the annoying leftist callouts by accident (they just wanted to point out leftist/liberal hypocrisy, often for them to get away with way worse things, then leftists/liberals took it to the next level, sometimes they outright manipulate who should be the callout’s target to incite infights, destroy alliances, or just to see someone who’s “deserving” to suffer).

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      Nice rhyme. Make it into a rap like those loser maga rappers but clowning on them. Actually, don’t. They are cringe.

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    Funny, but false. Tell me a dark joke about Donald Trump or religion. Please. In turn I can share a joke about minorities or gender.

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        I thought it was the priests kids had look out for, but I’ll take it!

        Here’s your joke about minorities:

        What’s an Arab in the ocean? Pollution.

        What’s all Arabs in the ocean? Solution.

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          This isn’t comedy though. Trump is powerful. Minorites are not.

          Comedy punches up. Insecure bullies punch down.

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            That’s your definition of comedy. Comedy isn’t just some kind of tool to only make fun of the upper class. You must be thinking of cabaret artists.

            It can be used to even give the less fortunate something to laugh about regarding themselves. Nobody and nothing is above jokes, IMO.

            To me, it stops being funny when the comedian either:

            • actually believes in the things they say e.g jokes about Jews are fine - if you don’t actually believe they are subhuman
            • keeps making the same jokes (Dave Chapelle talking about trans people every goddamn show since what feels like a decade)
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        If he were related to it, he’d fuck it too.

        And here’s your joke about gender:

        What do you call a transgender ninja?

        They slash them

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    Any of the “dark humour” places are always about racism and pro xenophobia instead of the terrible sex and/or dead baby jokes you might expect.

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    Man. Even if I DID think the whole “trans women are really men amirite LULZ” was funny at some point, it’s been their #OneJoke for like a decade now.

    I love Tim Minchin, but if every comedian I followed only sang The Pope Song I’d be pretty fucking tired of it pretty fucking quick (or insert whatever song here that’s just stuck in my head at the moment lol)

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    Tragedy is great fodder for comedy. There’s just a big difference between, “I’m laughing because this hasn’t happened to me” and “I’m laughing because this HAS happened to me and it’s better than crying.”