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The former president and first lady threw their weight behind the presumptive Democratic nominee
Barack and Michelle Obama have endorsed Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination for president, sharing the news in a joint phone call.
A video released by the campaign suggests the former president and first lady called Harris on Thursday while the vice president was in Houston, where she addressed the American Federation of Teachers and received a briefing on recovery efforts following Hurricane Beryl.
“We called to say, Michelle and I couldn’t be prouder to endorse you and do everything we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office,” Barack Obama is heard telling Harris in a 55-second video of the call.
“This is going to be historic,” Michelle Obama tells Harris.
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Michelle: When they go low we go high.
Kamala: Let the meme trolling begin!
If we do end up descending into a Draconian hellhole of an autocratic dictatorship at least the election run-up is going to be exponentially more entertaining than it was going to be with Joe.
I say that dictatorship part because don’t think for a second that the GOP is gonna just roll over and die. Expect hard-line challenges to vote counts in every single swing state.
I say that dictatorship part because don’t think for a second that the GOP is gonna just roll over and die. Expect hard-line challenges to vote counts in every single swing state.
I’ve been saying this since Sunday. We just blew up the Death Star, but the Empire is still a threat. The fight ain’t over, yet.
How did we blow up the Death Star? No victories have been achieved yet.
This is more like Han hanging over the reigns of the Millenium Falcon to Lando in RotJ. The battle hasn’t even begun.
Yeah for real. While I am happy to see such excitement around Harris, this is far from over. Too many people celebrating prematurely. Remember 2016???
No one was excited about Clinton.
Donald Trump could very well roll over and die and I would be ok with that. The only downside is not getting to know that he is in prison being miserable
The Heritage Foundation and its plan to cement autocratic fascist rule in the US will survive Trump.
Brace yourself for a massive disinformation campaign against Harris as soon as they recover from the initial shock. Don’t buy into any crap you see about her going forward. Eat no for breakfast.
Don’t buy into any crap you see about her going forward. Eat no for breakfast.
This is the exact attitude that led Republicans into being able to believe that Trump is an upright and moral citizen…
No one should write a blank check of virtue for any politician. Valid criticism is important, without it we’re just going to be led around by the nose by those who have access to power.
If we don’t hold liberal politicians to the same standards we utilize for conservatives, then we will end up with the same type of shit bags they have.
Oh good grief, don’t put words in my mouth. That’s not what I said and you know it. I said don’t buy the crap that we’re about to be flooded with. I never said you can’t criticize her. You can believe and criticize any valid reality-based you want to, but check the facts first.
Don’t buy into any crap you see about her going forward. Eat no for breakfast.
It’s all propaganda on both sides.
Entire Internet feels like a propaganda warzone nowadays. It used to be possible to have civil, open-minded discussions, not anymore.
It used to be possible to have civil, open-minded discussions, not anymore.
Bruh I’ve been in the internet since 2001. My earliest memory was trolling the Yahoo Pool rooms. Later on was getting into heated geopolitical arguments with grown ass men on 2007 liveleak as a shitforbrains 15 year old
Internet has always been the same, we just have more idiots now. Civil conversations are possible in the right places I think
Been on the internet since 1990. It has always been a cesspool.
This is frustrating. She couldn’t handle a primary run 5 years ago. Now the entire Party is just lining up as if she’s unquestionably the greatest candidate the world has to offer.
Prior to this, the only Democrat less popular than her, was Biden.
Nobody knows what she’ll actually do in office because she’s only ever said or supported whatever will help her at the moment.
EDIT: Thank you all. I had a good time today debating, discussing, reading, even occasionally learning.
Some of you engaged well, I upvoted. Some of you didn’t. I rarely downvote though, and never did here.
I appreciate you all, and hope you all have a good one.
Even Kamala Harris. I hope to see her succeed beyond all our expectations. Even if mine are quite low.she was in a primary with biden in the center and about 15 other progressives on the left. she was always popular; it’s just bernie occupied the left flank of the primary and everyone else was crumbs.
Biden couldn’t handle a primary run in 2008, but he killed in 2020.
Times change. Circumstances change. People change. And if the enthusiasm that has come out over the past week, both from her and from the party base, is any indication, Harris in 2024 is in a much better place than she was in 2020.
Biden didn’t kill it in 2020. Bernie won the first few states, so the DNC freaked out and pushed the other candidates to drop out and endorse Joe. After that, the media lined up to declare him the presumptive nominee. The DNC hates progressives.
Kamala was a better speaker than Joe in 2020. Her comments about being one of the black kids on the busses aimed at Biden was accurate and scathing. But she followed the party mandate and bowed out.
Why is everyone’s memory so short about these things?
She’s a far sight better than Trump or Biden.
Bernie won a couple states that never help determine the election. Then Biden won by a lot in swing states. If Bernie won swing states it would be different. He didn’t. His appeal isn’t and wasn’t as good in the specific places the Presidency is won.
It sucks because I picked him in both primaries. But the reality is Biden had broader appeal where it mattered. Any Dem candidate is going get 170 EC votes along the coasts. It’s between the coasts where the election is won. And Biden did better in all those places.
To my point, he was doing better until the others started to drop out. But that’s all academic now. My opinion hardly matters, but I stand by my belief that the DNC hates progressive politics and would rather lose than support a populist progressive.
Pete won Iowa, Bernie won New Hampshire and Nevada. Everyone (6 total candidates) was still in for South Carolina which Biden dominated. Pete and Amy dropped out at that point. But Bloomberg joined and Warren was still in. Gabbard was too but we all know was a joke candidate.
Biden was against 4 options going into Super Tuesday. Biden won 10 of the 15 primaries on Super Tuesday. Came in 2nd for the couple he didn’t win. After that is when Bloomberg got chased back out, and Warren dropped out realizing she was stripping votes from Bernie.
Bernie was ahead for all of 3 weeks. And at that point only 3 states were in. What truly happened in that time is a lot of media spin. Because they had nothing much to report on and kept belaboring over almost nothing of consequence. By the time my chance landed here in Illinois it was obvious Biden had it in the bag. Bernie dropped out himself only a couple weeks after.
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Is that really the best we can hope for? Or ask for? Someone who’s better than Trump?
In July, of an election year, in the US? Yes, that’s the best you get.
Make a time machine, convince Biden to drop out 8-12 months ago, then you can have your open primary season.
That’s a plan, I can get behind.
But I would go to 5 years ago.Why go 5 years when you could go back and ensure the convicted felon loses to Hilary.
That’s a good point. And a better plan.
Is that really the best we can hope for?
Got any actual suggestions, or are you only here to complain that any candidate isn’t a 100% perfect match for everything you want in the world?
I thought you were going to say:
“Is that really the best we can hope for? ‘Working on social and political causes to help see people and policies you like make it to the top’?”
And I was like “yeah, it is the best we can hope for”.
That is what I’m asking for. Everyone else seems content with backing a “winner”.
I don’t know if you understand. People are donating and volunteering, for Kamala Harris. You don’t want more participation, You just want people to support your personally chosen candidate (who remains nameless).
I haven’t seen one I like this cycle. Neither major party has nominated one I really liked in 40 years. The Dems came close a couple times.
This sentiment is really impractical in a functional democracy of over 300 million people, if you can’t find anyone in 20 candidates that have run over the past 40 years from the two major parties you were willing to vote for.
Your perfect candidate that you hold out for isn’t going to be the perfect candidate for a lot of people. Part of the whole give and take is building consensus around most broadly acceptable candidates, rather than just taking your ball and going home when none of the viable candidates perfectly suite you.
Oh. Look. It’s the exact message we all knew was coming. “Good thing we got rid of Biden, but now we have another terrible candidate.”
Yes! Exactly!
All the Democrats seem capable of, are terrible presidential candates. Obama seemed like a great candate for a … Change. But turned out to be quite mid.You know, obviously I disagree with you. But I respect you for not deleting your comments and for continuing to engage earnestly with people who were upset by it. I understand your disappointment with not ever getting a president who really moves the ball forward.
Until a progressive candidate can get elected in the swing states or there is a massive shift in the Overton window, I don’t think you’re going to get what you want. I’d like the world to be a better place, too. Shit, depending on the next 4 years, it’s likely I won’t live to see a liberal Supreme Court again, let alone tear down the corporate capture of our government.
Kamala has proven she can inspire people and that she can win. And I said before Biden even stepped down, if he goes, it has to be her or we risk losing black voters whom we can’t win without. Now she’s bringing them in droves. And the more registered Democrats, the greater our chances of really moving the country left in a meaningful way. She’s the right choice, whether she’s the best choice or not.
Anyway, be well.
You know who else couldn’t handle a primary run (twice) before they were elected president? Joe Biden.
Yah. I don’t know why anyone thought he was a good option either.
And yet he won despite you not knowing why.
Is winning the only hurdle? That’s so depressing.
When it comes to stopping Project 2025? Yes, that is the only hurdle. Work on the rest after that.
That’s not something we’ll ever “stop”. That’s an ongoing eternal fight. And you don’t win by only playing defense. You need to try to score also.
We will never stop a specific agenda that has been laid out in great detail in a plan Americans are souring to the more they hear about it?
The sounds like what some people told me about Biden in 2020. Why vote for him? He’s the same as Trump.
Except he isn’t. By most measures.
