• chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I love how this will gain traction, but when we talk about banning the Dutch guy who literally fucked a child, everyone is like, “But they can change…”

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      yes the offenses are disproportionate, but the problem with doping is it directly undermines the integrity of the sport. same with gambling.

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            Being forced to compete on the same team with or against a convicted pedophile would certainly distract me, and would likely degrade the audience’s experience as well. Seems like a bad thing for sports.

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              We all get what you’re saying dude. Doesn’t mean there isn’t a distinction. What you’re describing is an indirect effect on competitive integrity, which might be an arbitrary difference for viewers but for the IOC it’s a legitimate distinction.

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                Great! There is a distinction.

                I. Don’t. Care.

                Ban the pedos.

                I don’t get why this is an argument. Why are we even discussing this? I feel like it should be a given. Question 1 on your Olympic Entry Exam: Have you, as an adult, had sex with someone who did not or could not consent?

                You can put every other question about doping and ethics after that one, because if they get hung up on Question 1, they shouldn’t be allowed to represent their country on a national stage. There are others that can answer that question in the negative that can take up the spot for their country.

                It doesn’t matter what distinctions there are between doping and fucking kids, we need to, as a species, stop putting pedophiles on pedestals. Don’t buy their albums, don’t watch their movies, and don’t give them medals in the Olympics. They can work the fryer at McDonalds to support their wasted existence.

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      He’s a genetic advantage, oh no. He was born tall and broad shoulders with a swimmer’s body. That’s obviously cheating. On a related note LeBron James shouldn’t be allowed to play basketball either. Usain Bolt’s legs were too long he was genetically cheating. Only short fat out of shape people should be allowed to compete.

      Actually I’d probably watch that.

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        He’s a genetic advantage, oh no.

        One of the problems with any competitive sport is the fixation on top performance, rather than the appeal of the sport itself. People dope to win, because winning is more important than simply playing well. People dope because they can’t afford to compete without being a top performer, and so we create a monetary incentive to cheat.

        Only short fat out of shape people should be allowed to compete.

        “Don’t bother even trying, you’re the wrong shape” is a very common and deeply disheartening trend in a whole host of sporting events.

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          Brother we’re talking about the Olympics. Top performance is the point. The best athletes in the whole world competing at the top of their Sports. Nobody here is under any illusions about why people cheat we all get it. That doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.

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            Top performance is the point

            The point is to bring together an international community of athletes in a peaceful cultural exchange.

            Handing out medals for ballroom dancing and table tennis is just an excuse to get everyone in the same room together.

            Nobody here is under any illusions about why people cheat we all get it. That doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.

            The enormous monetary incentives around medaling corrupt the spirit of an egalitarian international event.

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    Phelps was actually so good that he needed to slow his performance down with bongloads and Subway sandos so people wouldn’t assume he was doping.

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      Track Star Sha’Carri Richardson had to give up a gold medal after she tested positive for THC following a match.