• Trump and his supporters are slamming Joe Biden for quitting the race and endorsing Kamala Harris.
  • Some members of MAGA world are bemoaning the millions of dollars spent running against Joe Biden.
  • Biden’s withdrawal also means Trump is now the oldest candidate in the presidential race.
  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Incidentally, there’s a bunch of people on Lemmy really mad that they can’t tell everyone not to vote for Biden anymore. They’ll tell us not to vote for whoever is going to be his replacement though.

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      You know what I’m not seeing?

      ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

      ALL of the tentative happiness about Harris maybe being a stronger candidate than Biden was, is coming from people who were either neutral or defending Biden before. The people who were giving a firehose of criticism to Biden and demanding that it was MANDATORY for him to step down, for the good of the Democrats and the country, have for the most part fallen silent, and a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

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        Wasn’t rabid before, but I was one of those for Biden stepping down in favor of Kamala. I just wanted a strong voice that was capable of at least countering Trump’s endless spew of lies. But I have noticed those that are now bashing Kamala were also telling people not to vote for Biden.

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        They’re waiting on the next talking points from their Russian overlords. Give it a day or so and they’ll be back with some new, yet all the same, arguments.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, they can’t take two seconds to enjoy the victory they wanted. They have to move on to the next thing to bitch and moan about.

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          They never thought it would happen. They shot themselves in both feet with shotguns. Now they’re in panic mode because they’re realizing they’re really fucked now.

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            Pretty much. That way when Trump won, they could say “see? We told you so!”

            Much more important than them or people they might care about getting marched into camps.

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                bomb em Biden

                • Takes too long to even figure out
                • Not really all that punchy
                • “Genocide Joe” is already perfectly serviceable without these drawbacks
                • Dude… he’s out of the race now. Why you are even trying out new ways to dunk on Joe at this point is beyond me. Unless you were just excited that you thought of it and wanted to have a chance to apply it before the moment is past even though the moment is, at this point, past

                3/10. It’s not, like, a total failure, but there are multiple reasons just not even to use it. Can I recommend “cacklin’ Kamala” instead, as a replacement?

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                  I really liked Genocidin Biden but he turned around and started dropping air packets and at least tried with the pier.

                  I think he should have driven aid trucks in with one us soldier per truck and said “Dare you.”, but I understand the high risk for loss of life.

                  He did a lot of good and even worked with the railroad union after he shut down their strike and earned my respect back from that one.

                  He is either in the shadow years of his life or he has just lost the ability to not seem that way in public.

                  The man has earned his retirement and now it is our job to try and get her elected.

                  That sending Israel everything and protecting their asses after what they have done.

                  A response was required, they unleashed hell on civilians and he continued to support them.

                  She probably will too, but maybe not.

                  While I would love someone way more on the “single provder” and new housing, those are long term changes

                  They listened and now it’s our turn to have their backs.

          • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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            Exactly.

            It’s quite insidious.

            Today I’m suddenly seeing a lot of “vote blue no matter who”, which IMO is intended to stifle enthusiasm for Kamala.

            If the left could unite behind a candidate we’d destroy the GOP.

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            Several others are not. Including a person who has been posting anti-Biden articles in this community for months, who has now switched to anti-Harris articles.

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        ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

        Really? I’ve seen plenty of posts like that. Stuff like “Donated to the democratic party to show this was necessary”, “Finally, we can safely roast Trump for being old and senile”, “I don’t care who the replacement is, thank god he’s out”.

        There are some shit-stirrers, but they seem to be the minority.

        Disclaimer: I am not American, cannot vote or donate, am heavily invested in the election due to the ramifications on Ukraine.

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          Can you link me to them?

          You don’t, like, have to, but I am genuinely curious. I haven’t seen that and I am wondering if there is some segment of Lemmy that I am missing.

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        lol that’s a really broad extrapolation of what, a few people you saw that happened to post something in the last day? Just boldly labeling anyone who had a criticism of Biden as a bitter troll or something?

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      Eh, their new dissent orders seem to be “Biden can’t appoint Harris! I didn’t vote for her!” which, of course, displays a total lack of knowledge about what primaries are and what the DNC is.

      They didn’t want Biden to run, and now they mysteriously don’t want the person most of the party supports to run either.

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        Right? It’s almost as if they’ve never been approaching any of this in good faith.

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          You’re telling me someone would just go on the internet an lie?

          It’s a massive social hub with influence on all the worlds information. What possible motivation could someone have try to influence people by faking accounts and make bad faith arguments?

          Sorry, it just doesn’t add up. Now, you’ve interrupted me hitting myself in the head repeatedly with a hammer and this brain damageisnthgomr e

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        The uptick in those types of accounts makes this site start to feel like 2016 reddit 😂. Lemmy has become large enough to justify investment of bots to brigade and astroturf; we’ve made it!

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          I actually was curious about it, so I looked over his posts, and it’s all over the place. Pro-Marianne Williamson, anti-Nancy Pelosi, pro-open convention and by implication anti-“coronation”, criticizing Harris for not being LBGTQ friendly enough…

          Actually. You know what, it’s not really all that all over the place. 🙂 It’s just a little bit subtle with the consistent anti-Harris / anti-Democrat message, from different angles, enough so that I didn’t really pick up on it until I started typing them out.

          Also I notice Marianne Williamson is starting to edge out Cornel West as the nonsensical candidate to support instead of the candidate that might be able to win the election

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      Oh yeah I’ve been called a fascist already because I said I’d vote for Harris and that while she isn’t the best candidate she will be leagues better than Biden imo.

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      Everything they already pinned on Joe (like mainly Israel) they can pin on her because she was part of the same administration. Plus they will now also point at things from her past, like history as a criminal prosecutor, and blame her for that as well. Since that won’t align with progressive criminal reform agenda. And they might call her a race traitor as well, just for good measure. Should be interesting to see what the tankies and communists come up with.

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          And her past as a prosecutor, and the fact that she lost the primary 4 years ago, and her laugh. In addition to yours, that’s all I’ve seen so far. They ran “Heels up Harris” into the ground several years ago, but I do think it will make a return at some point. It was a shit insult but so are the others they’re trying to use.

          Really all they have is a terrible legal gambit to try to keep her off ballots. That one is laughably bad. No deadlines have passed. The idiot at the front of the House said something stupid. I would hammer that until election day. “The Republicans did their best to keep us off the ballot because they hate freedom and democracy. They don’t want you to have a choice. And Trump endorsed Harris. Here’s the check.”

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            She also said something hard to understand about coconuts. Don’t forget that one. That means something or other.

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              Now they’re panicking and can’t decide if she’s unlikable or if she’s the “whacky aunt” entertaining everyone at the barbecue.

              I went to the other place to check TFGs meltdown tweets or truths or turds or whatever they call them and I was not disappointed. He is asking for his money back because the attack ads they’ve purchased were against Joe.

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      there’s a bunch of people on Lemmy really mad that they can’t tell everyone not to vote for Biden anymore.

      is there any evidence for this claim at all?

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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        I guess I wasn’t talking about you then, was I?

        But do please explain why I shouldn’t have ignored the people I wasn’t criticizing when I was criticizing another group. Is this some weird ‘both sides’ thing?

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          It’s an easy way to group all of someone together and pretend that everyone was the same, when we aren’t.

          You pretend like there are only a few people who are like me and that the vast aren’t.