I happened to click a link that took me to the associated twitter X account for something I was interested in and was greeted by not one, not two, but four modern day web popups.
I know it’s nothing new. I’ve got a couple of firefox plugins that are usually quite good at hiding this sort of nonsense, but I guess they failed me today (or, I shudder to think, there were even more that were blocked, and this is what got through)
What’s the worst new/not-signed-in user experience you’ve encountered recently?
Anybody know why google has a popup on every major website now? And more importantly, how to get rid of that without creating an account?
uBlock Filter:
||smartlock.google.com
||accounts.google.com/gsi/$3p
||id.google.com^You mean uBlock Origin, right?
Yes, that’s the only one you should use
It works 🫡 thank you 😊
Disable all third party JS in uBlock origin
That can cause the page to fail to load in some instances.
Some specific websites might need tweaking but from anecdotal evidence about 90% of websites work just fine. YMMV though because I don’t visit twitter
A number of the more tech savvy online newspapers have begun enforcing client-side scripts as a means of preventing people from reading articles without a subscription.
And they get to deal with a combo of NoScript and UBlock origin from my Librewolf instance. If I really can’t get in, I’m going to HackerNews
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Why? It’s how I browse every day
It’s really interesting, I hadn’t tried this in a long long time. Some sites are simply broken, others drag themselves along half broken, but lemmy seems to be doing alright weheee
I use uBlock’s “Medium mode” that (for some reason) is hidden behind several obscure steps: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode
Anyway, yeah, it pretty much breaks every website the first time you visit. Well, every domain at least. But once you figure out which scripts to allow to get it functioning, you can save individual settings for each site/domain that load automatically every time you visit afterwards.
Gemini is an attempt at trying to bring the old web back, although with some technical limitations.
While the web is looked at as a superstore rather than a library, function will dictate form.
I heavily disagree with this. Stepping back to “walls of text with hyperlinks” is a bad idea that’ll service no one and will never succeed in any reasonable capacity.
Current web technology is not what caused bad web. The exception would be too powerful js where js should only provide interactivity and extra flavor to the page rather than run a full application which can fingerprint and punish user agents.
Javascript, embeded images and audio are awesome things that can improve content readability a thousand fold. Just look at best docs on the web - all of them use these features to tend their users. Even wikipedia added js flavoring like hover pop ups. Because it works.
I actually prefer a mostly text web. If the trade off for ditching JavaScript is not getting hovering pop ups, I’m fine with that. I think that while JavaScript can help with usability, it’s main use right now is being a pain in the ass. Images and video are useful, don’t get me wrong, and that will always be the most popular “use” of the internet, but most of the time I just want to go on the Internet and read cool shit without fifty different corporations trying to fuck me over with the promise of “enhanced usability”. Like a link has to have some floating bullshit for me to click it. Absolute madness.
For me, multimedia is a non-negotiable part of the web experience.
Yes, I get as annoyed as the next guy when I want, say, a simple tutorial written in a couple paragraphs, but the only ones anyone seem to want to make are eight minute long videos filled with fluff. That sucks. But purposefully excluding it from your protocol because it burned you a fee times is a gross overcorrection in my view.
I appreciate the Gemini project, I respect its goals, and I am happy that it meets the needs of several people such as yourself. But for me, and I think for a great majority of people who would be potentially interested in its broader goal of simplifying the web but are dealbroken by lack of multimedia capabilities, Gemini will never be anything more than a toy. A quirky little curiosity that will never expand beyond a tiny clique of people who accept Gemini for what it is and are content to only ever see content from that same small pool of people.
But lack of ability does not prevent any of that. Entrepreneurs who want to monetize stuff will find a way to spam and game the system.
As someone whos responsible for docs and public facing material I’d never push text only content these days. There’s just way too much UX value left out with this limitation. Sometimes more is more.
Additionally I’d argue that people who only want text are have advantage in the current system as you can strip and reformat everything on the front end and nobody will ever know or bully you into accepting their system. Just like nobody cared about ad blockers before they were widely adopted.
X gon give it to ya
instagram’s login pop-ups will appear if you have seen like 12 posts of a user. that’s really annoying. if you are on mobile and open instagram on the browser and then log in, instagram still asks you to log in. how weird!
I don’t have Instagram and when friends send links from it I don’t even try anymore.
Pro tip: you can turn the link into ddinstagram to embed on services like Discord and other ones with embeds. This way you don’t have to visit the site
That is a protip, thanks
GIVE US YOUR DATA GIVE US YOUR DATA GIVE US YOUR DATA
PLEASE HERE TAKE IT
(Just please stop yelling at me)
This image needs 3 shopping hotbars at the top.
I LOATHE that fucking google sign in overlay.
Omg fuck that thing so hard I hate it
Hey you want to read this article why don’t you sign into Google? Why I can already see it
If this was your webpage 15 years ago, you’d be almost certain that you’d been infected with malware.
I really really do miss old school internet and feel kinda bad for people who never get to experience it. I know i sound like a cunt, and maybe it’s just nostalgia, but when the internet was bound to a computer and it was mainly “nerds” using it, it was such a better time. I remember a time where the internet was fast enough for pictures and small videos, but having your own picture somehow on the internet was witchcraft to me. Scanner, cameras who are digital whaaat? Now most of the internet is ads and pictures of people who i don’t give a shit about. People’s opinion, picture of people, fuck off bring back the time where the internet was either forums or someone’s weird website, where you only stumbled upon because you typed in a web adress i. The hopes it leads you somewhere.
I had a girlfriend who was truly fascinated by the fact that i don’t have social media and that i’m not “on the internet” like she didn’t find me and my stupid face anywhere on the web. She was often wondering what i was doing on the internet if i don’t have social media, because that was the internet to her. Facebook, instagram, tiktok and youtube.
She was often wondering what i was doing on the internet if i don’t have social media, because that was the internet to her
~ shudders ~
Whenever I get to a webpage that looks a decade old (like most recently Ventoy) I get hit with a wave of nostalgia. Yeah, it might not look great or be very responsive to my actions, but my god does it feel great to just get thebinfo you need front and center.
There was a screenshot I once saw of a Chinese netizen’s web browser in the late-2000’s, using Internet Explorer 6 and tonnes of third-party toolbars. I think I saw it back when Digg was still a thing. We’ve now reached the age where major websites are more cluttered with notifications than a malware-infected browser was 15 years ago, and where everybody is tracking everything that you do online.
25 years ago, we legitimately drove RealNetworks into the ground for a lot less than what we’re allowing Google, Microsoft, Meta, X, etc to get away in the modern day.
Never thought I’d miss frames. Though really, I always why exactly why they got dogpiled into nonexistence. Formatting issues?
I imagine coding frames so that they worked well on both desktop and mobile would be a major pain in the ass.
They died well before mobile formatting was a concern. I suppose other aspect ratios were getting more popular then. That and the security issues the other poster mentioned probably contributed.
Security nightmare as well
It’s actually a pretty tasty coffee.
This is something I like to use ublock origin for. Like, blocking ads is nice, but I also love just clearing out clutter from websites.
Ublock, doesnt block the google login, th cookiebanner and the shitty login question of twitter itself. I looks exactly like that with ublock.
I’m not on Twitter so I haven’t tried cleaning it up, but it’s super easy to select additional elements to block, I do it all the time to clean visuals rather than block ads.
Yeha but it’s very easy to set up filters for those kind of elements
Then companies like…“dont use adblock”
*xitter
Could you please give ne the names of these plugins that you use?
uBlock with “Cookie Notices” and “Annoyances” ticked on. Filter lists tab.
It’s kind of bothersome how almost blind I am to them now. I habitually find a way to close them without having to read or focus my eyes on anything. That’s not to say it isn’t still an annoyance.
This is so common it has a name, it’s called banner blindness.
One of the important aspects of interface design is supposed to be not showing alerts for everything, so that when they pop up you feel compelled to pay attention.
Not long ago a nurse killed an older woman by giving her the wrong medicine; she took accountability but called out that the software they use provides so many alerts that (probably unofficial) policy was to just click through them to get to treating the patient. One of those alerts was a callout that the wrong dosage was selected and she zoomed right by it out of habit.
Another term I seen in the context of healthcare is alert fatigue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alarm_fatigue
Alarm fatigue or alert fatigue describes how busy workers (in the case of health care, clinicians) become desensitized to safety alerts, and as a result ignore or fail to respond appropriately to such warnings.[1] Alarm fatigue occurs in many fields, including construction[2] and mining[3] (where vehicle back-up alarms sound so frequently that they often become senseless background noise), healthcare[4] (where electronic monitors tracking clinical information such as vital signs and blood glucose sound alarms so frequently, and often for such minor reasons, that they lose the urgency and attention-grabbing power which they are intended to have), and the nuclear power field. Like crying wolf, such false alarms rob the critical alarms of the importance they deserve. Alarm management and policy are critical to prevent alarm fatigue.
Automation engineer here: alarm management is a hugely important part of making a plant operable.
It is also a project that is never done, you must always review alarms that come in and see if they are providing useful information and what the operators are supposed to do with said information.
If the operators are not supposed to do anything with the information, then what is the point of having the alarm?
Same when setting up Nagios, after a time you learn fewer alerts is better
