“I’m the nominee of the Democratic Party. No one’s pushing me out. I’m not leaving," he said in a call to the broader campaign

  • cabron_offsets@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’ll vote for any D, no matter what, but Biden is a sure loser in the general. Independents are fucking mentally defective. You need a showman to win at the margins, where this idiotic election will be decided.

    I can’t believe how many of you are so myopic as to think everything’s fine.

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      4 months ago

      So, you’d vote for literally ANY Democrat, no matter WHAT, but you think it’s the independents who are mentally defective? You think anyone who ISN’T 100% committed to political party tribalism is defective? Well, I adamantly disagree. I think it’s the unquestioningly partisan voters who are the defective ones.

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        4 months ago

        I think it’s more along the lines of “I don’t want the other guy to win” so they’d vote for a carrot over the offered Republican, who they know what they stand for. They’d prefer a better Dem, but anything to stem the bleeding.

        The mentally deficient ones are the ones that can’t seem to decide when the choices are obvious.

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          4 months ago

          Again, you folks are ignoring a key part of what was written. They didn’t say they would vote for any D so long as the Ds can be considered a preferable choice by reasonable and informed people, they LITERALLY said “no matter what.” I sincerely hope you can see a difference.

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            No one is ignoring anything. Well, except you, since you seem to need every bit of context spelled out for you before you can derive intended meaning from four sentences. Like fuck man, I don’t know how you get through the day with that level of incompetence.

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              I get through my days perfectly fine. Quite well, actually. I’m not the incompetent here. The person said that they would vote D no matter what, and that independents must be mentally deficient. The implication couldn’t be clearer: the Democratic party represents the correct, orthodox ideology, and thus they should be supported no matter what, the Republican party represents an incorrect, heterodox ideology, and any independent who doesn’t recognize that must be mentally deficient. To illustrate my point, simply imagine the same statement only with the D replaced with an R. The problem isn’t that some people adhere to wrong ideologies, the problem is ideology itself. Everyone should be an independent, instead of adhering rigidly to one ideology or another. That doesn’t mean all ideologies are equally harmful, and many, if not most, independents know that. In fact, I think many, if not most, independents recognize that Biden and the Democrats are the less harmful of the two options, which is why I think many, if not most, independents will vote for Biden in the general election. Many people are simply confusing independents’ criticisms and displeasure as a failure to recognize that the Democrats are the less harmful option.

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        4 months ago

        I get the whole tribalism bad thing but come on, man. How could any D be a worse choice than Trump?

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          They didn’t say they would vote for any D so long as they are better than Trump, they specifically said any D no matter what. There’s a big fucking difference.