• TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Look, I don’t like Kamala either and I think continuing to supply weapons is awful, obviously. But she’s the only realistic option at this point. You can still protest the genocide in Gaza AFTER the election (and I fully support you doing so, Hell I might even meet you at one), but look at it this way: if Kamala wins, you at least have a chance to make a change over there, but if Trump wins again, every Palestinian is as good as dead. Do I like either option? No! Do I think our elections are a good system? No! Am I going to vote for Kamala anyway? Yes! Because at this point, the choice is between shooting ourselves in the foot or in the temple

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      3 months ago

      So did Trump.

      Trump, who routinely touts his support of Israel more broadly, has reportedly said he supports Israel in its continued “war on terror” after the October 7 attack by Hamas.

      This part always seems to be forgotten every time this comes up. Voting for Trump won’t suddenly stop it. He’ll either send just as much or more.

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          Well, if you put it in the picture then it must be a good argument.

          /s

          Just because one side is not 100% perfect doesn’t mean you have to support the side that is 100% bad. If you’re waiting for the perfect candidate who matches your beliefs on all point before voting you’ll never get to vote.

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              I did. Has nothing to do what I wrote. Pointing out Trump isn’t some hero of Gaza isn’t a “But Trump” anything.

              So, go back and read what I wrote. Or would you like a “But Trump” comment?

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                  You think you’re so clever because your meme doesn’t say vote for Trump, but do you really think that we’re that stupid that we wouldn’t recognise a post designed to suppress the Democratic vote and enable Trump to win?

                  If you actually cared about the genocide in Gaza AT ALL you would be doing everything in your power to stop Donald “best president for Israel in the history of the world” Trump and the Republican literally-write-“Finish-them”-on-Israeli-bombs Party winning.

                  But you don’t actually care about Gaza at all, you just care about keeping left leaning folks from voting.

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                  3 months ago

                  Look at the meme, and see the connection between our and your original post. You are the one who posted both.

    • BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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      3 months ago

      Kamala Harris:

      At the same time, what has happened in Gaza over the past 10 months is devastating. So many innocent lives lost, desperate, hungry people fleeing for safety over and over again. The scale of suffering is heartbreaking. President Biden and I are working to end this war such that Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom, and self-determination.

      The whole situation in Israel/Gaza is a mess. Innocent people are getting hurt on both sides. There are bad people doing horrible things on both sides. Real life is not a movie where the bad guys all conveniently wear the same uniform. Only children think the world is that simple. But hey, assuming the solution is simple saves you from hurting yourself by thinking about what is an incredibly complicated state of affairs.

      Personally, I would prefer a president who acknowledges the complexity of the situation over one who thinks the world operates like we’re living in children’s book.