• Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    To be fair, us genX did nothing about anything and just felt cool wallowing in our fake cynicism of “why do anything when nothing matters” so we’re probably half as much to blame as the boomers

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      To be fair, you were directly under thier control when they were in their biological primes so fighting back would have been harder. Also, it’s you parents and all. So don’t sweat it too much

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    The generation who wants to make 80$/hour but only want to work 4 hours a day every other day but is a high school drop out and has 30 pronouns, the same people who want to protest on behalf of Palestinians, who if the said protestors visit Palestine, they’d be raped and beheaded for being apart of the LGBTQ community, the same people who wear fanny packs and socks with sandals, and the ones who are tide pods…

    Or the people who wore diapers on their ears, took deworming pills to battle COVID, “injected themselves with bleach”, and school shootings because the “strong men” made fun of them etc etc etc

    Oh wait. Maybe they did create the hard times that created the weak men… Just downhill from here, or unless Kamala Harris wins the election so we can create strong men again. Oh wait… “Vote blue no matter who” is a rather weak strategy which creates low informed voters as well as the “make America great” schtick.

    IDK, all of humanity is doomed. There is no saving us. We are constantly at odds with each other and no one wants total cohesiveness or even promotes it.

    We are drifting away and there is no going back. Blame the “boomers” and " Gen X" all you want, we are destined to destroy ourselves and the answer isn’t “vote blue no matter who” or “Make America great again”.

    The wrong people are being heralded as role models. Role models shouldn’t be famous people or politicians. And if parents can’t be role models and then they shouldn’t have become parents.

    Anyway, off I go to collect downvotes and snarky comments yet again lol

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        Gen X did nothing to improve the dumpster fire that boomers created. All they do is whine about how “powerless” they were

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            GenX was also relatively small compared to the boomers.

            I wonder if every generation will blame (maybe correctly) previous generations. So long as things are getting worse, the kids kind of have a valid argument. “Why didn’t you fix this before it got to us?”

            As a millennial, I’ve been doing what I can short of going full vigilante. But in 30 years, they still wouldn’t be wrong to say “it’s still broke though isn’t it?”

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              Millennial here too… I blame myself for everything, including climate change. Everything I (can) buy is wrapped in plastic. Everything I (can) consume produces CO2. Every step I take, every breath I make… I’m killing earth.

              I have a lot of self hate and can understand anyone who hates my generation. At least it ends with me. Who ever thinks kids are a good Idea must be completely insane.

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                Whoa whoa. Never said I hated myself. That doesn’t solve anything. If anything it makes things worse by stealing focus. More like realizing that this isn’t working. We need to fix the system instead of letting people distract us with plastic straws or playing the blame game

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      Do we REALLY want zombie Reagan and hundreds of others like that running around again? I dunno about you guys, but I’m so tired of living through Interesting Times ™️ and Unprecedented Events ™️. A zombie apocalypse where they don’t eat our brains, but just fuck up the economy even more doesn’t sound fun.

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        Make Zombie Reagan take Carter’s former place and build homes (by hand) for poor people.

        The holy water that leaks out of the sink will probably burn him out of existence anyway.

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    Fourth turning theory is fashy crap written by a play write and a business fund manager (people with no credentials for historical analysis), worshipped by people like Steve Banon.

    Accordingly it’s totally subjective, a guessing game.

    Truth is: No one can predict what’s going to happen.

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      It’s predicated on baby boomers not having hard times. There’s no basis in reality. Not unless one were to believe baby boomers are all predominantly white upper middle class. Not to mention one must believe history was all sunshine and rainbows until their generation (millennial/zoomer/whatever) came into existence.

      Do they really think people just walked right out of high school into wealth from the career factory? This is basically the privileged upper class. Which is the top percentage of their generation. Guess what? Everyone else had it hard!

      So much of current day pop culture “boomer bad” stuff is based on these stupid notions. I wonder how people are going to rationalize when baby boomers are all dead and the class war still exists. I think some younger people are in for some serious cognitive dissonance ahead.

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        Most people are referring to the fact that boomers were born into the strongest social safety net in American history and then allowed Regan to gut it for short-term gains. The original aphorism may not be true, but I can’t think of a generation it applies to more.

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        So you’re just gonna pretend the massively documented body of evidence that as a generation boomers have had access to unprecedented privilege in human history regardless of demographic and have also overwhelmingly implemented or voted in systems that have destroyed that framework doesn’t exist.

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        I mean there is a thing going all the way back to the silent generation who had a taste of the depression and so had some knowledge of truly bad times. Even younger boomers had a decent chance of getting a job that you could raise a family with just a high school degree and older ones could be pretty successful. Having a pension was the usual. Losers who managed fast food could still afford a place of their own and a fixer upper car. I saw these things go away as an Xer but I know its still better than those after me. college loans for me was like a car loan. A very nice car, like luxury care, but still a car. So college was doable even for those whose parents could not help out. It was not long after I graduated that college loans became like mortgages for the millenials. You can have a car loan with no car and get by and you can’t be doing a mortgage with no shelter to show for it. All the while a college degree debased to where its basically the high school minimum needed for any shot. Its that much worse for gen Z and I don’t even want to imagine what gen alpha will have. Thats just economic. Then you take the giant fall back we had with environmental regulations with reagan. There was a lot of environmental consciousness in the 70’s and it essentailly evaporated in the 80’s with yuppies and greed is good. Granted this is mostly a republican effect but who were the reagan democrats? I get that many boomers are great and its not that the generations that follow are individually so great but the way its shaken out it just gets to be a more and more raw deal for each successive generation.

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              Your comment makes sweeping generalizations about boomers as if they all had it easy. I want to remind people that this really only applied to a select group of specially elevated boomers. A white man could have what you say, good fucking luck if you were a Black woman though.

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            That’s hilarious, do you also say that with your “death to America” hexbear buddies?

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              Even younger boomers had a decent chance of getting a job that you could raise a family with just a high school degree and older ones could be pretty successful.

              Read this very carefully. Do you think this applied to Black people in 1960?

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                yes. do you believe all black people in 1960 were on welfare? Do you believe no black people in 1960 had decent jobs. Discrimination is about relative opportunity of the time and believe it or not they do not have it better now. Heck we are losing much of what came out of the 60’s.

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                  I believe that Black boomers didn’t have everything handed to them like white boomers, among other oppressed groups.

                  Times are easy or hard depending on who you are and your place in class society.

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                Lol of course not, so I’ll repeat myself and say it’s funny how this never comes up in the “death to America” and “such and such is the West’s fault” of the other hexbear posts you comment in. I know you’re being a contrarian teenager right, but that’s the kind of stuff that makes hexbear posters look dumb.

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                  I have no idea what you’re even trying to say.

                  This thread is a circle jerk about how boomers had it easy. I just wanted to remind people that it was only the white ones that had it easy, and in particular, the able-bodied straight Christian men.

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          It’s true. But I think the point is that more opportunities were available to that generation. For example, both my boomer parents grew up in poverty. Dad was an orphan. They moved to the city with no money and made careers for themselves. Housing was cheap. That’s not possible today without family wealth (in Australia at least). I’m a software engineer with an electrical engineering degree and I’ll never own a house or retire. They bought houses on public service wages without degrees.

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              Well AIDS was scary as fuck but Australia didn’t have to worry too much about the cold war. Life in the 80s was generally pretty cruisy.

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                This. Were it for me, 70s, 80s and 90s on a loop forever and sucks for those countries/people who lose from it, but they have to sort it out themselves.