Jared Kushner just flagrantly violating the Logan Act multiple times. Will anything come of it? Doubtful.

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    Shit, we better get to locking up all the parents. Sorry Ma and Pa, he lived under your roof for 15 years obviously you’re an accessory.

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      The elements of a conspiracy are (a) planning a crime with someone, and (b) taking any step, no matter how minor, to advance the plan.

      Both are necessary. Planning a violent revolution without taking any concrete action is just talking shit, which is generally not illegal. Good thing for Lemmy users.

      Likewise, inadvertently helping a murderer without having a criminal plan, like Ma and Pa, is also not illegal.

      Put the two together, and you’ve got an illegal conspiracy.

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        Oh so you lied earlier then.

        Manson’s gun was used in the Tate murders, which is more than enough. But even giving the others a place to stay can be enough.

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          No, I didn’t. I’ll walk you through it again.

          (a) Manson convinced people to join his murder plan. But he didn’t just convince people, he also

          (b) Took a concrete step to actualize his plan

          When (a) and (b) are both present, that’s a conspiracy

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            Yeah I get what you’re saying now. The gun and the place to stay aren’t enough on their own. That’s not what you said earlier. Likewise trying to conduct diplomacy as a private citizen is both A and B. The conspiracy to interfere with the elected will of the people and actually doing so.

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              “Interfering with the elected will” is not a crime.

              If it were, all protests would be illegal.

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                  That’s like saying “homosexuality is a crime in Texas, because a law against it exists”.

                  If nobody will enforce a law that’s obviously unconstitutional, then that law de facto does not exist.