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      I love to poke at people’s conception of Western with these questions:

      Is New Zealand Western?
      Is Japan Western?
      Is Brazil Western?
      Is South Africa Western?
      Is Kenya Western?
      Is Lebanon Western?
      Is Israel Western?
      Is Hungary Western?
      Is Finland Western?
      Is Russia Western?
      Is Armenia Western?

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        If your nation was within NATO, it’s likely western If after the collapse of the USSR, your nation joined EU, it’s likely western And anything outside this category would be third world or eastern (Russia, China, Vietnam)

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          I realise you were just offering a hueristic, but Ironically all of the three countries you listed were Second World nations. (I’ve also never heard Eastern used in a similar way to Western in the way you used it at the end there before.)

          Australia isn’t Western then, but Romania is?

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            That’s because east-west is not based on the region, it’s based on cultural aspects, along with a few other things like how people communicate. This is why Australia is western as it has a western culture. So, the whole cold war NATO thing is not 100% accurate, but defining first, second, and third world is since those are defined by political ideologies.

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              Well yes, First (Cold War era capitalists), Second (Communist, Marxist, and Maoist nations), and Third World (non-aligned and all the rest of them) are all clearly defined.

              Western is more nebulous, which is why I like to push back at it. Each person’s idea of “Western” tends to be a little different.

              If we’re taking the cultural root then Brazil, Israel and Lebanon make a nice test cases.

              Edit: oh, you’re making the case that Western = First World Nations. That’s a fair and valid short cut, with Japan/South Korea/RoC, and various oost-Communist states in Europe.

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    There’s also “dubyuh” that’s fairly common. Hell, we had a president that pronounced it that way.

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    Way to complicated, just say “we” with the w from way and the e from hell like we Germans do.

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    Canadians here.

    It’s “double-you”, but if spoken quickly, it can become “dub-you”

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    How someone is pronouncing W is actually a good way to guess where the speaker is from, or where the person that taurht them learned english.

    double you for british/american accents

    dubba you for some american accents

    Dablu or dabloo is a clear indication that the speaker is not a naitive western english speaker, usually indicating indian for the speaker.

    double v (often pronounced as double we) usually points towards somewhere near germany/holland/belgium

    I’ve never heard anyone say just dub, curious if anyone has?

    Edit: I lied. W pronounced ‘dub’ is only ever used to indicate a ‘win’. e.g. ‘Took the dub’