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      They aren’t loaning out money to have ports built? They don’t have a state run union? Their government isn’t filled with some of their richest? They don’t have a program reducate certain peoples that includes shipping them accross the country? Like come on, some of these are just established public facts that even the CCP doesn’t deny.

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        They aren’t loaning out money to have ports built?

        The myth of Chinese debt trap has been thoroughly debunked, just a few examples

        Their government isn’t filled with some of their richest?

        It’s demonstrably not. The government is predominantly filled with working class people

        They don’t have a program reducate certain peoples that includes shipping them accross the country?

        A weird framing for programs to provide people with jobs and education.

        Like come on, some of these are just established public facts that even the CCP doesn’t deny.

        As I said, every single claim you made is disinformation. Also, no idea what CCP is. It’s called the Communist Party of China, CPC. The fact that you can’t even get that straight says volumes.

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          http://www.chinatoday.com/org/cpc/
          https://news.cgtn.com/event/2021/who-runs-the-cpc/index.html
          https://news.cgtn.com/event/2019/whorunschina/index.html
          

          Do you think those are sources? Pointing at the National Congress or the Central Committee as if those actually held any power is ludicrous.

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            Yes, these are actual sources. This whole narrative that official Chinese sources are somehow unreliable isn’t actually based on anything other than pure chauvinism. This is no different from linking about a US government site talking about US government. And it’s the height of absurdity to claim that National Congress or the Central Committee don’t hold any power. I love how you just make things up and state them confidently as a form of argument.

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              Official Chinese sources are unreliable when they spout bullshit like saying the rubberstamping meetup that happens once every blue moon that solely consists of party selected individuals is who holds the power instead of the much smaller group that actually actively controls legislation.

              But I guess political science is also exclusively western propaganda so there’s no choice but to believe a choppy power point presentation.

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                Who told you that official Chinese sources are unreliable, was it the “reliable” western sources that continuously lie about everything regarding China by any chance? 😂

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                  Do you think that the only choices are between Chinese and US state propaganda?

                  You don’t even need independent research to realize that a parliament that only meets once in a while to verify the work of a much smaller group can’t be the one that’s actually in power.

                  If you look a bit more into it, you see that the members are replaced in fixed time spans, are all part of the same party, are picked from the top down and so it goes on.

                  It’s not the organ with the actual power.