• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    Some cells get taken from you and turned into stem cells.

    These are converted into brain cells, and nerve cells, on a chip that represents the scaffolding, interface, and connectivity.

    Then the whole ‘organ-device’ gets surgically installed into your brain, and through gene therapy, the brain cells grow into, connect with and network into your existing tissue.

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      And then every time you sneeze, you end up ordering another case of diapers from Amazon.

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      pffft good luck getting my brain organoids to do your bidding… I am deeply tarded

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    So we’re starting to get to the point where its theoretically possible for computers to get real organic viruses? “Sorry boss I cant work today my computer caught Covid and coughed on me so now I have it too :(”

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      Are you seriously ill, but don’t want to leave a ton of medical debts to your family?

      Then donate your brain tissue to BrainCloud™! Instead of costing your family a lot of money, you might make them Millionaires* and also reduce CO2 emissions of world leading AI applications! Leaving a better world for our children!
      And who knows, maybe you will even enjoy thinking about chat bot responses in weird nightmarish ways for the rest of what might seem like an eternity.

      ~*We offer a donation compensation of up to $1.000.000. Actual rates depend on brain capabilities, size and constitution. Payouts are determined by our quality assurance team. Payouts are not guaranteed. In cases of brain tissue with insufficient quality, compensational fees for testing, lab work, and services may be charged to the donor’s family.~

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          You ‘pute 64 bits, whaddya get?

          Just ‘nother load for your instruction set

          Satoshi don’t call me cuz I can’t go

          I sold my soul to the crypto bros

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    IIRC these organoids also die after somewhere around 100 days of hypoxia, because they have yet to be able to construct a proper circulatory system for them.

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    As if tech isn’t enough of a hyper specialized mess already now we’re throwing biologists into the mix. “Sorry we need to wait for the registered nurse to fix your machine I’m not authorized to administer meds through the CPU’s IV”

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      From a read of that article, it appears that they are feeding it analog inputs, which would imply that it is producing analog outputs. I don’t know if there is a way to evaluate floating point operations on an analog system. That said, my knowledge is very cursory, and someone will surely correct me.

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    Is this legit? This is the first time I’ve heard of human neurons used for such a purpose. Kind of surprised that’s legal. Instinctively, I feel like a “human brain organoid” is close enough to a human that you cannot wave away the potential for consciousness so easily. At what point does something like this deserve human rights?

    I notice that the paper is published in Frontiers, the same journal that let the notorious AI-generated giant-rat-testicles image get published. They are not highly regarded in general.

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      Seems like it’s an ethical gray area. Some brain organoid have responded to light stimulus and there are concerns they might be able to feel pain or develop consciousness. (Full disclosure, I had no idea what an organoid even was before reading this and then did some quick follow up reading)

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        How complex does a neural net have to be before you can call any of its outputs ‘pain’?

        Start with a lightswitch with ‘pain’ written on a post-it note stuck to the on position, end with a toddler. Where’s the line?

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      They don’t really go into the size of the organoid, but it’s extremely doubtful that it’s large and complex enough to get anywhere close to consciousness.

      There’s also no guarantee that a lump of brain tissue could ever achieve consciousness, especially if the architecture is drastically different from an actual brain.

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        Well, we haven’t solved the hard problem of consciousness, so we don’t know if size of brain or similarity to human brain are factors for developing consciousness. But perhaps a more important question is, if it did develop consciousness, how much pain would it experience?

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          Physical pain? Zero.

          Now emotional pain? I’m not sure it would even be able to accomplish emotional pain. So much of our emotions are intertwined with chemical balances and releases. If a brain achieved consciousness, but had none of these chemicals at all…I don’t know that’d even work.

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              Didn’t have to. Kind of an obvious thing to point out, but OP didn’t specify what type of pain he meant, so I figured I would, just in case.

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                  Human brains don’t actually have any pain receptors (even though headaches would have you seriously believe otherwise), so a brain alone wouldn’t be able to feel pain any more than it would be able to smell or see.