& Microsoft is sooo soft-in-the-head as to believe that we ought trust them, after this,
& the previous fiasco,
& the one before that,
& https://search.theregister.com/?q=microsoft+security+privacy&site=
( you may need to go through a few hundred pages there, to see it all )
This is their DNA: it isn’t going to change, now.
opt-in until next update when it will be enabled “magically”
Let me tell exactly what will happen.
- Step 1 - It’s opt-in. Everyone chill
- Step 2 - It’s opt-in but the opt-in button is advertised during startup
- Step 3 - “opting in in crucial for your safety and comfort” advertised everytime during startup
- Step 4 - it’s opt-out now but it can be turned off in settings
- Step 5 - it’s opt-out but the off button is hidden below 3 layers
- Step 6 - the opt-out button is gone but can be turned off with a registry edit
- Step 7 - sorry, it’s a core component of W11
We are currently at Step 1
This comment is taken from another lemmy post but I forgot the username. Apologies.
If you don’t opt in you will miss essential security updates and you will become a terrorist
I mean even if it is not mandatory but automatically enabled once, odds are %80 of the users won’t even bother turning it off so win for windows in any case
My 10 year prediction - Microsoft does a full transition to a services company:
- Basic Windows is free, even for OEMs
- Windows Professional becomes a subscription thing, maybe you get it as part of your Azure AD sub
- Things like Recall or not having ads are extra subscriptions
There were already rumors halfway between 10 and the release of 11 that they wanted to do it that way, making 10 the last “standalone” release version
How do you “fix” the security issues of a program that is literally designed to spy on you?
I’ve just switched to Linux Mint and I’m not ever coming back. That’s how I “fixed it.”
“We won’t turn it on and will never use it to spy on you” says government backed surveillance monopoly know for sneaking spyware into products and making it impossible to remove.
I’ve been researching wine and proton for Linux. Fuck windows! The only reason I still use it is for gaming but if wine works as advertised I’ll be switching to Linux.
As someone who made the leap, I haven’t booted Windows in months. Proton, Steam, and Lutris cover basically everything I play.
We’re you already familiar with Linux or follow a guide? Lot of products I’m not familiar with there.
Add Lutris to that list. If anything doesn’t work in WINE, try installing via Lutris. My AxeFX’s GUI now works flawlessly thanks to an older version of WINE running in Lutris.
Rather than not install it to begin with. Leeches
Trust is difficult to earn and easy to lose.
When did they earn it last time?
XP was made stable to counter Linux, it wasn’t something like trying to earn trust IMO.
Windows 7 was not that bad either, imo. Especially with the Aero theme
Not only is Recall a huge security risk, but I genuinely don’t get the point of it (other than just being a way for Microsoft to get ad data). Like, ‘remember what you last did on your computer!’ like uh yeah it’s called having a memory. Like unless you literally have severe memory problems (where using a computer is probably the least of your concerns) this is pointless.
How about you promise to remove your build in spyware?
Musnt anger the shareholders
It feels like these huge ass companies are just testing people’s reactions before they do something these days.
I don’t even care if it’s opt-in. I don’t want dormant malware on my PC either.
To be clear. I actually like Windows 11. I don’t care about the general telemetry, though I disabled the typing data crap. Most of the things in the last few months about ads in Windows, about blocking apps, etc have been overblown and aren’t actually big problems in isolation. Even this is a little overblown right now as it requires an NPU which the vast majority of systems don’t have. But, this is just so tone-deaf and an obviously terrible idea that it needs to be put down hard.
Yeah, they’re so focused on screwing me over that I’m worried eventually I’ll miss something.
Most of the things in the last few months about ads in Windows, about blocking apps, etc have been overblown and aren’t actually big problems in isolation.
Any telemetry sent without a very clearly informed opt in is malicious. Any ad in an OS is malicious. There is no valid justification for either.
as it requires an NPU which the vast majority of systems don’t have
Don’t have at the time. I agree with you but argument that it’s not an issue for many people right now will bite the majority eventually
I don’t want *dormant* malware on my PC either.
“Why not?”
–Micro$oft, probably
If somebody shows you who they really are, believe them the first time…
Shame I stopped believing that BS from them circa winME…
Too late Microsoft, I jumped into the Linux pool and the water is fine.
Exactly. Running fedora desktop and I am thinking why the move does.not do more poeple. The only Microsoft junk I am using is the corporation laptop and that I am sure wont get this function.
