• DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    After thinking about this REALLY REALLY HARD…offing him will do nothing to stop the creep of facism. You have an entire party now aligned with the idealogices that the 3rd Reich had. And it’s the entire party. MAGA killed the GOP after they got rid of Cheney. You cut one head off and 3 more will pop up identical to him…with vindication. Its going to be a yearly struggle and I’m afraid we won’t be able to hold them back forever.

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      After thinking about this REALLY REALLY HARD…offing him will do nothing to stop the creep of [fascism]

      Who would step in to replace Trump? Trump has worked hard to discredit anybody who could potentially challenge him. Strongmen often groom a son to take over for them, but only after they’ve been in power for many years. Trump might want Junior to take over, but I doubt even Trump’s hand-picked yes-men would accept Junior at this point.

      Instead you’d almost certainly get a power vacuum with various Republican factions trying to take over.

      You cut one head off and 3 more will pop up

      And those 3 would start snapping at each-other trying to become the dominant head. And, as long as they’re distracted snapping at each-other, they’re not going to be focusing on us.

      IMO, Trump is also the only thing holding this right-wing coalition together. As soon as he’s gone the factions are going to turn on each-other. The bad thing is that they’ve already shown that they’re going to get violent when they feel their grip on power is slipping. I’m sure this assassination attempt is going to lead to right-wing violence, and if it had succeeded it would have been a lot more violence.

      The most dangerous thing about Trump is that he’s he’s got almost half the US behind him. There are probably more cruel Republicans, and probably some who would be more effective at implementing their cruel policies. But, not many who would be able to get so much support and keep the coalition together.

      The Republican base is getting smaller each year as old people die. It’s not a popular platform with the younger voters. If the US can avoid a Trump win this year, the MAGA version of the Republican party will probably fall apart. Then it will be back to the regular corporatocracy that the US has been dealing with for decades. If he does win… well I’m glad I don’t live in the US.

      • curiouschipmunk@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        I believe the same. Want it or not, Trump has the charisma that nobody else in the party does. And the luck. My only hope to stop the madness was to have Trump losing the election then dropping dead by natural causes after. That’d be safest way to take all his followers out of the spell. I really don’t see any other way for his cult to end. Then the right wing extremists go back to hate in their closets and, if democrats are smart, keep having more moderate candidates like Biden and reign the extreme left as well.

    • Tyfud@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      There’s a reason the Allies kept trying to assassinate Hitler during WW2, and it wasn’t because they thought it was a bad plan to end the war.

      Not saying I agree or disagree with you. Just sayin’ how it happened last time.

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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      4 months ago

      Killing him potentially turns their party against themselves as they fight each other for the power vacuum it creates

      Doing it before he picks a VP furthers that unity divide

  • Iron Lynx@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    We’ve missed the exit for the third-best timeline that still involves That Guy: the one where Donnie bites the dust before the elections. Unless someone fills the guy’s plane with Anthrax or something like that, we’re still on track for locking in the USA as a failed state.

    (the second best timeline with That Guy would be the one where he simply loses the election. The very best would be where the DOJ makes something stick against him & he’s disqualified before the elections.)

    • Iron Lynx@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Let’s also face it, if there’s a candidate that’s so divisive that someone looks at the massive security apparatus for people like him and still think it’s worth trying to assassinate him, that would be grounds - at least for me - to re-evaluate whether the candidate is the right guy.

  • Obinice@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’ve not looked at the news yet, Lemmy was my first stop. I’m thinking… earthquake in the Kremlin?

    There’s a lot of really nice architecture there, it’d be a shame for it to be lost in rubble.

    That, or we got disqualified from the Euros final xD

      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        4 months ago

        Trump got shot at. Trump fine (hence the meme), shooter dead, couple bystanders Trump supporters dead.

          • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            4 months ago

            We’re getting into paradox of tolerance territory, tbh. I’m not upset that supporters of fascism were killed.

            I am upset that the guy with the rifle didn’t have better aim (if indeed that was actually how everything went down, and it wasn’t staged in one way or another, because there are several fishy things about this).

          • experbia@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            i wouldn’t know, according to them and their folks, my friends and family and I are not people, so I guess my definition of that must differ. moreover, I don’t dispense sympathy for people who would cheer and support the news that me and mine have been hunted down and shot in the street. I don’t sympathize with the aggressors. I’ve just been trying to mind my own business and live my life as best I can, but these people (in sudden newfound need of sympathy and feelings of safety, lmao) have been talking for years of purges of non-Whites and gays, and civil wars, and rounding up the undesirables (that’s me, apparently, by virtue of birth) to clean up the country. might as well be asking me to sympathize with a school shooter over his hearing damage from not wearing earplugs while he mowed down a classroom.

              • InputZero@lemmy.ml
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                4 months ago

                True, but they’re still people. Dehumanizing them because they dehumanized you is another path that I don’t care to see. It’s good to be intolerant of intolerance, but nothing ever gives anyone the privilege to do anything intolerable.

                • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
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                  4 months ago

                  The Nazis sentenced to death at the Nuremberg trials were people, but they still deserved what they got

              • Midnight1938@reddthat.com
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                4 months ago

                Yep, given the number of places currently ‘technically’ invaded by the country. I guess i guess everyone’s desensitised

          • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
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            4 months ago

            They are, indeed, people. My point was only that they are not “bystanders”. They are actively involved, and much more so than the average voter.

  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    My feelings weren’t mixed on Trump. I hope the next person has better aim.

    I was just plain old dad about Richard Simmons, Dr Ruth, and Shannen Doherty. They all deserve better.

      • canihasaccount@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        I never understand why lemmy downvotes someone who is trying to help by providing accurate information, presumably because they think that there’s a very small chance that the person they’re replying to isn’t being sarcastic.

        • fl42v@lemmy.ml
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          1 month ago

          Funny enough, I wasn’t entirely sarcastic. I’ve seen some trump memes that day and suspected smth happened to him, but they were the 1st to explicitly tell it as far as I remember 😅

  • jose1324@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Nothing mixed. Fully sad he didn’t die and this will cement his win in the coming months. We’re fucked.

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      4 months ago

      There’s still time for the DNC to swap Biden out for a more electable candidate and energize their own base again, for what it’s worth, though at this point I think the DNC wants to lose so they can secure more funding.