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    18 hours ago

    You said to Organize and admit a genocide is occurring, while not letting yourself be convinced that voting is the only course of action.

    I’m saying that’s awesome but what do we do when trump gets elected because no one wants to vote now?

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      14 hours ago

      You said to Organize and admit a genocide is occurring, while not letting yourself be convinced that voting is the only course of action.

      Of course voting is not the only course of action. Voting is incredibly little. What, you check a box? Maybe wait a few hours at most to get into a pilling station? Dear God.

      This is an incredibly limited amount of political action, particularly given the way in which box checking translates into any political action (electoral college, media monopolies, biased education, wage slavery limiting political education, campaigns built on donations from capital).

      I’m saying that’s awesome but what do we do when trump gets elected because no one wants to vote now?

      You actually do political work. You become educated and join an organization that does more than act as a sheepdog that turns alienatuon into genocide votes.

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        14 hours ago

        And in the end Trump wins the vote and you lose your oppurtunity to do any real politcal work! Congrats.

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          12 hours ago

          Trump was already president once and my political work was actually easier because liberals were outraged and could not understand the complicoty of their representatives. Their representatives merely reflect the cynical apathy of their position that is shielded when they are in power.

          If Trump were an existential threat would you just be sitting around posting bad logic? You know he is just an incremental partial detriment in some ways and some vague miasma in other ways. Biden is, for example, a much more coherent genocidal Zionist, as is Harris.

          Rather than quibble about how to appease one’s inner Eichmann, why not fight against it?

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            Trump was already president once and my political work was actually easier because liberals were outraged and could not understand the complicoty of their representatives.

            Hope you can look trans and queer people in the eye and tell them their genocide will be worth it in the end because you’ll stop all genocides. You know, after they’re dead and gone.

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              2 hours ago

              Hey, as a trans person involved in a socialist org, get involved in a socialist org instead of arguing for your own catharsis.

              Trans genocide is happening in plenty of states even with a democrat in charge, democrats will not prevent trans genocide on a long term basis.

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              5 hours ago

              Hey look you did the meme of this post.

              I organize with trans communists all the time and materially support trans spaces. There is no lack of trans people that oppose both capitalist parties. But more importantly, if you are to avoid tokenizing people, you must have an actual analysis for liberation and not a monolithic “this is what trans people want” stereotyping. The latter is always incorrect and never actually happens because trans people are not a monolith. The former just means you understand this and know which trans people you disagree with. For example, I disagree with assimilationists that support genocidal Democrats and try to pretend liberation comes at the expense of others.

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              8 hours ago

              This is the most nothing-burger reply. Queer people are among the most vocally supportive of moving outside the bounds of electoralism because the DNC does not protect them.