Biden’s numbers among young voters have slid during his presidency from the high margins that helped him beat Trump. Several former supporters explain why.
You mean like when he won the primary against Bernie, even though Bernie was actually more popular? The primary is only part of the picture–the other is the party apparatchik that gets its pick no matter what.
I don’t think they said anything about who they’re voting for in 2024, you’re just being an ass.
Plus, their vote only matters if they live in a purple state, otherwise the backwards way the US conducts elections means their vote is worthless.
I live in a blue state. I could vote for Trump and rest assured it doesn’t even matter. I could vote for Mickey Mouse, it doesn’t matter, the state electorate goes Blue. In a way, this makes me lucky, because I don’t have to vote for the sack of worthless crap Biden is.
If you think presidential elections are the ones that matter for an individual to take part in, you’re already disenfranchising yourself better than any gaslighting about Democrats could ever.
Joe’s not good, but not voting for him IS a vote for fascism. Period. Republicans don’t need good opposition to never the less be completely undeserving. Since we LITERALLY CANNOT pick outside of the two choices, you literally have a forced choice between fascism and shitty Democrats.
Buddy, at a presidential level, it doesn’t matter if an individual votes red or blue in VT. It goes Blue. Their impact is utterly irrelevant.
And the DNC will never run a decent candidate with any intent to make fundamental changes to benefit the common person because they can always fall back on the kind of thinking you’re showing here to ensure nothing will change. And they have no motivation to, either. They maintain power just fine by doing the bare minimum of not being quite as repugnant as the Republicans, while still being utter bastards.
Anyway, this kind of attitude is exactly what makes the vote blue no matter who people insufferable fools. Neither I nor the first person you replied to said anything about who their voting for, they simply expressed displeasure with utter dogshit choices we have. Fuck, it seems we even agree that Biden sucks. And yet you lept on them to call em a fascist for not liking Biden.
Another person in this thread said I should be literally crucified for not liking Biden.
It’s hard to understand why some people might be turned off by that kind of thinking, isn’t it?
It’s hard to understand why some people might be turned off by that kind of thinking, isn’t it?
Honestly it’s giving the same cultist energy that red MAGAts fling around. We were never kidding when we started throwing around BlueMAGA as a perjorative.
Have no idea what was said because mod removed it. My experience is that a lot of people are reactionaries who only understand part of any given problem. They get into a huff because they make this ignorance part of their identity.
I don’t understand what you’re proposing Trump would do that would fail. Giving Israel more money, weapons and the go-ahead to 100% kill everyone (which is NOT what the Biden admin has done) or shelling Gaza from boats and bombing them ourselves has nothing to do with Trump personally being intelligent. In fact, it’s what he would surely do since he’s a moron.
Biden is playing a delicate game where he supports Israel without provoking all of the other countries in that region or alienating allies.
Trump wouldn’t give a shit. That could be disastrous for Israel, because contrary to the propaganda they aren’t actually strong enough to fight everyone everywhere all at once. Not even with Trump’s help. Also, he’s just as likely to get bored or give up on Israel when things get difficult.
Well, I think avoiding widespread war in the ME is best for everyone. Trump would have the US do whatever Putin tells him, which would be whatever is the worst for NATO and the best for Russia, with no regard to what’s best for the region, world or Palestinians.
So better to vote in the guy who will make the US fascist, make it worse for its citizens, and most likely bully and potentially cause more death with its huge army in order to possibly maybe potentially help another country by fucking up?
Even if you’re not a US citizen, that’s some insane mental gymnastics to do in order to somehow be braindead about this genocide being Biden’s fault and try to frame it as if nobody else would or could have let this go as far as it has if they were the US President. And if you are a US citizen living in the US, you do realize you would be living in a Trump-run America? Legitimately, are you okay with actually making another country’s situation maybe slightly better at the expense of your own living conditions??
So you’re just going to vote for open fascism this time? Only an evil person votes for the greater evil or allows a greater evil to win.
I dunno man, its either Light Fascism or The End of the USA. It’s a hard call only negated (to me) by being in a fucking red state.
If Biden got Primaried he absolutely would lose.
You have a lot more faith in voters than I do. If Biden got primaried we’d get the same milquetoast liberal we’ve always gotten.
He’d be younger, at least, as it would almost certainly be Newsom.
I don’t see how he’d be that different from Biden, but he’d be nicer to look at.
He’s not anti-abortion, for one
You mean like when he won the primary against Bernie, even though Bernie was actually more popular? The primary is only part of the picture–the other is the party apparatchik that gets its pick no matter what.
I’m sure you have strong evidence of this, with how confident you are?
He is getting primaried, technically speaking.
Why is the end of a fascist state a “hard call?”
End of USA as a non-fascist state is what they meant.
“There’s a terrible danger in voting for the lesser of two evils because the parties can set it up that way.” – Hunter S. Thompson
Evil is evil, whether ‘lesser’ or ‘greater’-- and right now? Your guy’s looking to be an equivalent evil to Trump.
I don’t think they said anything about who they’re voting for in 2024, you’re just being an ass.
Plus, their vote only matters if they live in a purple state, otherwise the backwards way the US conducts elections means their vote is worthless.
I live in a blue state. I could vote for Trump and rest assured it doesn’t even matter. I could vote for Mickey Mouse, it doesn’t matter, the state electorate goes Blue. In a way, this makes me lucky, because I don’t have to vote for the sack of worthless crap Biden is.
If you think presidential elections are the ones that matter for an individual to take part in, you’re already disenfranchising yourself better than any gaslighting about Democrats could ever.
Joe’s not good, but not voting for him IS a vote for fascism. Period. Republicans don’t need good opposition to never the less be completely undeserving. Since we LITERALLY CANNOT pick outside of the two choices, you literally have a forced choice between fascism and shitty Democrats.
Buddy, at a presidential level, it doesn’t matter if an individual votes red or blue in VT. It goes Blue. Their impact is utterly irrelevant.
And the DNC will never run a decent candidate with any intent to make fundamental changes to benefit the common person because they can always fall back on the kind of thinking you’re showing here to ensure nothing will change. And they have no motivation to, either. They maintain power just fine by doing the bare minimum of not being quite as repugnant as the Republicans, while still being utter bastards.
Anyway, this kind of attitude is exactly what makes the vote blue no matter who people insufferable fools. Neither I nor the first person you replied to said anything about who their voting for, they simply expressed displeasure with utter dogshit choices we have. Fuck, it seems we even agree that Biden sucks. And yet you lept on them to call em a fascist for not liking Biden.
Another person in this thread said I should be literally crucified for not liking Biden.
It’s hard to understand why some people might be turned off by that kind of thinking, isn’t it?
Honestly it’s giving the same cultist energy that red MAGAts fling around. We were never kidding when we started throwing around BlueMAGA as a perjorative.
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You sound worse than the facists you accuse others of voting for
Have no idea what was said because mod removed it. My experience is that a lot of people are reactionaries who only understand part of any given problem. They get into a huff because they make this ignorance part of their identity.
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I mean you’re talking about crucifying your political opponents, chud
No, I’m voting for Hillary Clinton. It’s still her turn!
This is the ultimate troll against liberals and I’m here for it.
Lets fucking Pokemon gooo to the polllllsss!!
You’re a moron.
How many thousands of Palestinian children do our bombs have to murder before you reconsider voting for genocide?
Getting Trump elected will make it worse. There’s no way in hell republicans would have a better policy on Palestine.
Trump is also extremely stupid. A better policy on Palestine is one that fails, and Trump is more likely to fuck this up.
I don’t understand what you’re proposing Trump would do that would fail. Giving Israel more money, weapons and the go-ahead to 100% kill everyone (which is NOT what the Biden admin has done) or shelling Gaza from boats and bombing them ourselves has nothing to do with Trump personally being intelligent. In fact, it’s what he would surely do since he’s a moron.
Biden is playing a delicate game where he supports Israel without provoking all of the other countries in that region or alienating allies.
Trump wouldn’t give a shit. That could be disastrous for Israel, because contrary to the propaganda they aren’t actually strong enough to fight everyone everywhere all at once. Not even with Trump’s help. Also, he’s just as likely to get bored or give up on Israel when things get difficult.
This is so stupid.
Well, I think avoiding widespread war in the ME is best for everyone. Trump would have the US do whatever Putin tells him, which would be whatever is the worst for NATO and the best for Russia, with no regard to what’s best for the region, world or Palestinians.
You really are an idiot.
This is a horrifying viewpoint which is effectively pro-genocide. More genocide, and faster too.
So better to vote in the guy who will make the US fascist, make it worse for its citizens, and most likely bully and potentially cause more death with its huge army in order to possibly maybe potentially help another country by fucking up?
Even if you’re not a US citizen, that’s some insane mental gymnastics to do in order to somehow be braindead about this genocide being Biden’s fault and try to frame it as if nobody else would or could have let this go as far as it has if they were the US President. And if you are a US citizen living in the US, you do realize you would be living in a Trump-run America? Legitimately, are you okay with actually making another country’s situation maybe slightly better at the expense of your own living conditions??
Why do you want Trump to win? Because that’s what you are arguing for here.
This is honestly pretty funny. IDK if you’re trolling with your other messages or not but this one is funny.