Remember when the web didn’t suck?

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    6 months ago

    Here’s what’s behind that stupid ad

    https://www.10news.com/news/fact-or-fiction/fact-or-fiction-online-ad-advises-people-to-wrap-doorknobs-in-foil-when-home-alone

    It clearly implies there is some kind of safety benefit to it. But there is not.

    Clicking on the ad leads to a lengthy slide show which eventually gets to the doorknob story.

    All it says is aluminum foil can be used as an alternative to tape to cover doorknobs and hardware while painting.

    It has nothing to do with safety and the inclusion of the phrase “when you’re home alone” was only used as clickbait to make the ad seem more important.

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            They pay for the number of impressions as well as the number of click-throughs. More clicks on the ad = more cost for running the ad, or fewer impressions. However, it also gives more money to those hosting the ads, so it supports them imbedding them.

            You can use this plugin to automate the process if you want to continue down this path. https://adnauseam.io/

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              That’s freakin awesome! I absolutely love that idea/solution. Is it kinda hot in here? Why’m I all moist?

              Seriously tho, is there any downside? Also, I’m still not sure I understand the point of running the ad in the first place. Why run a shitty ad that costs you money? Is the idea to get people to follow that other conspiracy site more regularly?

          • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world
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            Advertisers pay a fee to the website where their ad is displayed every time someone clicks on it, it’s called the Pay Per Click model. It’s how websites make money off running ads. There is a small fee for displaying the ad and larger one for click throughs.

    • sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip
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      6 months ago

      I mean… if you are like, home alone status, in a whole ass house with a bunch of doors… maybe covering the knobs in foil would make it so some kind of intruder makes more noise when opening doors, as they either handle the foil opening the door, or when removing the foil?

      ???

      It kind of makes some sense?

    • 𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I was under the impression it was a safety thing. If you grab loose foil like that it will form to the hand crushing it to turn the knob and therefore you know the home has had “visitors” without you saying so.

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    6 months ago

    I can remember around 1999-2000 if you clicked the wrong thing in IE you’d get 50 popup windows with ads for porn. At least that’s behind us.

    • pete_the_cat@lemmy.world
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      Then you also had the sites that would trap you there, every time you clicked the back button it would just reload the page.

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        I mean there are still websites that open themselves 10 times so you can’t click back out of them. I am curious as to what their end game is. Do they imagine we go “well damn can’t go back out of this page, might as well start living here now”

      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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        <script> function openNewWindow() {

          window.open("https://this.site.com", "_blank");
        
          newWindow.moveTo(0, 0);
          
          newWindow.resizeTo(screen.width, screen.height);
        
        }
        
        window.onbeforeunload = function() {
          openNewWindow();
        };
        

        </script>

    • Konstant@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I remember installing Windows XP and when connecting it to the internet and open the browser, a bunch of random popups started showing. I hadn’t click any website, just open the browser on a clean install. It was unbelievable. A friend who was there made reminded me of this for quite some time jokingly.

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    Sorry, I couldn’t resist. And contrariwise to this pic I do agree with you, the web used to be better. Sure, ads were always a fucking annoyance, but they’re reaching unbearable levels nowadays; a lot of people (like me) tend to not see it because of ad blockers, but once you turn them off? Eeeeew.

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      Well, you could land on a bad site full of nasty ads or wind up downloading software that offered you the finest of malware or viruses.

      And you could just not go to them, or not download sus programs or warez.

      Now the sites and apps hunt you down and shove it in your face. They follow you, rat on you, sell your info, and constantly try to sell You stuff every page you land on.

      Yeah, Old Internet wasn’t great, but it wasn’t institutionalized malice like we have today.

    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      Wild that the original of this image edit was “remember when /b/ was good” back in 2005

    • pete_the_cat@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Whenever I turn off AdGuard on my phone to get something to work and then forget it’s off I’m bombarded with ads everywhere and I’m like “oh, yeah, gotta turn that back on”

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      There was, like, a golden age in the early 10’s before popups and animations everywhere, and after popups and animations everywhere.

      It’s possible I’m just nostalgic. If it sucked some way I’m not remembering I’m very interested to hear about it.

    • molave@reddthat.com
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      6 months ago

      It’s the nostalgia filter. By the 2030s, some would think the year 2020 is the closest thing to utopia humans actually experienced

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    Remember when the web didn’t suck?

    Was there ever a time? In the late 80s and early 90s when it was mostly text only, there really wasn’t a whole lot of content, and bandwidth sucked massively.

    Once connection speeds improved, we got banner ads, popups, and noisy flash animations, all of which were vectors to install viruses.

    Then came google, facebook and amazon, and monopolized the web.

    Every era sucked in its own right. But I’m rather using it now where plenty of other educated people develop countermeasures that work out of the box, rather than having to fiddle around with browser configurations to block ads and malware myself.

    TL;DR: Use adblock.

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      There’s less info now than a few years ago and it’s harder to find. Web 2.0 has put most of the data and traffic into just a few hands. And as we can see with Twitter that can lead to a significant part of the Internet going to shit overnight.

      Hell, most of us are here because of what reddit did overnight. It’s certainly better than the age of web rings but we’ve entered a downturn.

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        6 months ago

        Agree, especially with the getting harder to find part. I’ve followed some other user’s recommendation and have been using kagi.com for the last 2 weeks as my search engine of choice, and it’s really way ahead of google these days. I’m still in the free tier but about to hit the ceiling this week, and I’m rather certain I’ll end up paying for it before I go back to google.

        The results are about on par with Goolge ~2022. No ads, no trackers, and most of the SEO garbage that’s targeting google (and maybe bing?) is by and large disregarded. Worth a try for sure.

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          99% of the time I just want a wikipedia summary, i just search wikipedia directly now and have done for years

    • gregorum@lemm.ee
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      In the late 80s and early 90s

      Hold up there… HTLM wasn’t even invented until 1991 by Timothy Berners-Lee who then made the first web server, web browser, and web page. It was another two or three years before browsing the web became more common. Before then, the internet was very basic, consisted of a few simple services, and was typically only accessible via universities and large corporations.

      Regular people often only had access to regional online services until national services like CompuServe, Prodigy, and AOL came along.

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        Yep, ARPAnet and some messaging boards pre-90’s. Slow as hell and limited content, that’s what I mean.

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          The internet existed pre-web. Email, Usenet, IRC, Archie, etc. the real difference between ARPANET and the Internet was the introduction of TCP/IP packet handling and CIX which unified ISPs, but those both came pre-1991.

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      At least now I can watch porn without it turning out to be that middle eastern dude getting his head cut off

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    Remember when the web didn’t suck?

    No, I don’t. Not since 2000, when I logged on from home for the first time. The majority of it has always sucked. Then the web can suddenly do new things… and finds new ways to suck.
    It has, however, always had excellent little areas and corners.

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      Right? Do you remember going to websites and your computer would yell out that you were watching porn? Ads would burst forth like you just won fucking Solitaire. Shit took forever to download, and if you lost connection in the middle, start over!

      I guess if you started using the Internet after like 2008, when things really started to take off, you saw a golden hour. But it was a dangerous place in the early 2000s, although I learned a lot about how to unfuck computers in my quest for boobs as a teenager.

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        I miss early YouTube that had full episodes of just about any TV show illegally uploaded without any sort of copyright enforcement.

        I also miss reddit, but what it used to be is gone forever.

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        Knowing about “Temporary Internet Files” while my family was unaware made me feel like some sort of God of knowledge.

        Oh and yeah I think I found porn there hooray!

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    6 months ago

    Actually the ad matches the article. To me the ad is “fringe” and it has infested the “mainstream” (CNN).

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    So I think the idea of the tinfoil is that somebody grabbing the knob will make noise.

    Therefore altering you.

    You’d be better off with an alarm system and a deadbolt lock, though.

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      It’s an ad in your post, fittingly (although yours isn’t particularly ironic).

      Do you know of oulipo.social? No fifth symbols found on all of that domain.

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        (btw i wanted to somehow word in “at least once per day”, but found using “per”, “every”, “for each” etc challenging to translate)

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          “I might try to put up a (compliant) post a day for a half-fortnight”?

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        thought it fit! >:)

        ooh, kinda wonky of los oulipos to call that thing just cuz of that only work which had this gimmick

        also i think that the original book allows using “the”, in fact it also allows “me” and forms of “be”. so los oulipos gonna <this is hard>, huh?

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    I’m so frustrated with the internet right now. My wife started making Castile soap and I’m trying to find out if its some fu-fu-berry-bullshit or like an actual decent soap. Google is feeding me momfluencers (which range from ‘fine but there is no accountability’ to blatant grifters) and sites that are simply trying to sell this stuff. I’m going to try again with kagi tonight, but it’s still very frustrating that I never know what to trust anymore. The bullshit is coming faster than I’m able to handle it