Even just reading the abstract would make it clear why I sent you that link.
Those countries does/did not operate as communist states the way that Marx and other political theorists imaginend them.
The article details the way in which socialist theory has been implemented throughout points in history and compares and contrasts with the modern Chinese methods. It is not “just a label” as you casually threw out earlier. China has used the productive forces of capital to rapidly modernize, however they do not allow capital to be turned into political power which results in a government that is shielded from a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie forming like we have in every capitalist country. Their capital accumulation is actually used to massively better the lives of the people who live there because they have a real say in what goes on.
Capital has a lot of power in China to the point where some have argued it is a State Capitalist system. At the very least there is a political tension between nationalist, Maoists, and capitalists within the Chinese government and Communist Party there.
Does the average Chinese system actually feel and justifiably so, that they voice can be heard and direct the government or are they more likely to believe that speaking up will result in worse conditions for themselves and those around them?
https://redsails.org/losurdo-on-china/
if you want an analysis of China that isn’t just based on vibes
Thanks, but what should i get out of this apparat from Soviet and Chinese history? What is it you are trying to say with this?
Even just reading the abstract would make it clear why I sent you that link.
The article details the way in which socialist theory has been implemented throughout points in history and compares and contrasts with the modern Chinese methods. It is not “just a label” as you casually threw out earlier. China has used the productive forces of capital to rapidly modernize, however they do not allow capital to be turned into political power which results in a government that is shielded from a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie forming like we have in every capitalist country. Their capital accumulation is actually used to massively better the lives of the people who live there because they have a real say in what goes on.
Capital has a lot of power in China to the point where some have argued it is a State Capitalist system. At the very least there is a political tension between nationalist, Maoists, and capitalists within the Chinese government and Communist Party there.
Does the average Chinese system actually feel and justifiably so, that they voice can be heard and direct the government or are they more likely to believe that speaking up will result in worse conditions for themselves and those around them?