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Real question here: has anyone else had luck side-stepping the Live365 signup during/after install? I’ve done this, and I’m very confused that more people haven’t.
iirc when going through the setup after a fresh install, I used sign in and typed in an email like fake@email.com with a keysmashed password. Because it’s obviously not an actual account and with a password that wouldn’t be correct, it’ll say as much but still let you continue into windows without signing in. Hope that helps
This stopped working about 1 month ago. OOBE\BYPASSNRO method can be used to create local account.
Microsoft is doing an amazing job
keeping me offselling windows 11!Keep up the great work!
Guess it’s time for Linux and for me to give up gaming :/
give up gaming
What? Most games run better on Linux
Yeah but I’m a weirdo that actually likes early access games and random indie stuff that rarely works with Linux so a large part of what I like won’t work.
Also star citizen… lol
That’s more of a you problem.
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I switched to Linux last week and I haven’t had any issues with my Steam games. Just had to turn on the setting to have Steam provide Linux support for games that don’t provide it themselves.
I’m gonna start sounding like a shill, but check out Nobara. Painless install, steam games just work out of the box.
P R O T O N
With Proton, a large majority of games run on Linux, and most even better than on windows.
Is proton the distro or program?
Proton is steam’s version of wine which is used automatically when you install any game that doesnt have a specific linux version.
I game on Linux. Go check protondb for compatibility with your favourite game
This has to be a massive GDPR violation?
If I understand it correctly this behavior happens only for newly deployed computers if you sign in with Microsoft account so there are no unexpected uploads to OneDrive, only downloads of your existing files if you used this feature before.
Although once you start saving files you might not realise files are being saved to also OneDrive. All in all it is a weird and dumb change, that popup where you are prompted if you want to enable known folder move was perfectly fine.
We get Windows 11 N
Doesn’t the N mean it’s only media player, and codec free? If so, IoT LTSC is a much better bet for minimalism and privacy and bullshit free.
My bad, you’re right. I thought it also excluded the software that made automatic onedrive support possible but apparently not.
The c-levels are really sick of all these new features they’re adding and no one is using them because of silly reasons like “they don’t work good” or “I can’t even see the point of this for me”.
In their wisdom, they’ve taken the option to say no away from the users. Now they have a much easier time justifying their bonus this year, just look at how many users are using their new features!
Yeah they’ll take that bonus and then dip to another company and get a big resignation party and golden parachute while the rest of us stare in amazement
- somebody who has worked at these types of companies
Edit: Grammar is good and stuff
Grammar is good and stuff
How dare you good grammar want
The end can’t come soon enough.
This is so fucking true.
Governed by an excel entry.
How do I get banned from OneDrive? Upload shit tons of garbage to clog their drives? I know they could probably add more space faster than I can upload but it would still make me happy to slowly feed them useless files that only take up space.
Make sure it’s all encrypted files so they can’t compress it.
There’s a quota, so unless you have a few hundred million dollars laying around, it’s a futile fight.
This might actually be a very good idea.
My first thought was to abuse something that rhymes with “Mild Topography”. But that would likely lead to legal repercussions for both you and Microsoft. A better solution would be to store hundreds of medical records in your Documents folder. You have a right to store your own medical information. If Microsoft is uploading those to their servers without your consent, and without appropriate HIPAA measures, that smells like an extremely silver-wrapped lawsuit.
The answer is incompressible noise. Hours of full on 8k video and 7.1 channel DTS of pure noise. There’s noise designed specifically to being incompressible and unable to deduplicate. I think some podcasts got in trouble with Spotify for something like this.
Let be honest here, a majority of users have their mobile devices backup automatically. They will see this in the same way…
My phone asked me first.
Just that I don’t have anything worthwhile on my phone. All the important stuff is on PCs. All the stuff that is professional, that is covered by NDAs, all the banking. And just because Microsoft has ever been shitty and is now going extra-shitty, it is not a Windows PC.
Just wait until some Microsoft digital parrot AKA artificial “intelligence” spouts some companies internal data that it had gobbled up somewhere from the companies internal network…
Same here. I don’t have anything important, and my contacts are in a vcf file whenever I need it.
First recall, then getting rid of local accounts, and now this.
Might shift back to Linux now.
One of us!
What would be the final straw
For me? Recall. I’m ordering an SSD to dual boot Linux off of and ween myself off Windows as much as I can. Probably can’t remove it as long as I want to play games* with friends, but I’d be happy to have my day to day be less awful.
* Before anyone says Proton, Wine, etc, I mean the awful multiplayer rootkits like Valorant.
I was in the same boat, I have a dual boot main machine now but I haven’t booted I to windows since I installed Pop!OS, I’ve been mostly just seeing what alternatives to everything so far, especially photo stuff, but I seem to be pretty settled now after messing with popos on a little thin client and little second pc I keep at work
I once turned that feature on thinking it was an actual backup (copies of my files in the cloud), I remember how angry I was when I found out it wasn’t a backup after all and just removed your files from your computer and only made them accessible online.
Wtf!
Good thing I use to debloat windows 10 on a local account and got rid of onedrive before it could wreck havok so.
But got to be honest, Far as long as I can remember, I always had backup of important data. Encryption - client side if off to the cloud.
Shit I’m so old that I prefer my music on HDD instead of using streaming services.
Using Linux nowadays too BTW.
You’re supposed to uncheck the save storage space and download files as you use them option.
This. Files uploaded locally should automatically be synced though.
They made it the default option for businesses that routinely buy computers with less local storage than their users need. Pretty much every company I have worked for.
They then pushed it out hard into the consumer market when SSD came out and the average storage space on lower end models dropped by 75%.
I see why they did it, how they did it was in usual Microsoft fashion, idiotic.
It’s sort of their pattern.
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Introduce new changes.
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Screw it up royalty.
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Fix the features that are salvageable and revert most of the remaining except: Double down on the shitty ones that they think will make them more money.
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Rinse and Repeat
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You’re supposed to remove windows
Ah yes, the classic Microsoft “what you really want is hidden behind a checkbox, otherwise you’ll get shit”.
They may have actually been inspired by Apple lmao (or maybe the other way around)
You can see their strategy at work here.
It is possible to keep individual files on the local hard drive with different settings (that in my experience never seem to stick past updates).
The default, though, is to take everything on your computer off of your computer, put it into the cloud (their computer), and recommend you pick and choose which ones stay on your computer. In essence, they want you to think of your computer as secondary to their computer. An extension of it.
There is no “your computer”, it’s just the computer you happen to be logged into at the moment.
The cloud is not something you take advantage of, the cloud is where you live now.
How does anyone put up with using that OS? It’s 2024, it’s time to move on. Sheesh
I use Revi. fresh install then immediately install Revi, gets rid of all the bloatware, copilot, onedrive, edge, etc.
I’d switch to a linux install but I just don’t have to time to figure out which is the right one for me, installing it, configuring it, etc. I wish I did, wish I had the time to play around with it but I simply don’t. (I mean maybe someone smarter than me can tell me a linux distro that will work with world of warcraft, steam, final fantasy xiv, etc) so I have to settle with win 11+revi
I just don’t have to time to figure out which is the right one for me, installing it, configuring it, etc
Ah, then you want Mint.
I mean maybe someone smarter than me can tell me a linux distro that will work with world of warcraft, steam, final fantasy xiv, etc.
Mint, ive had no issue with any of those except WoW, whose issue is that I do not play it to test it. it even handled modded FNV better than Windows ever did once I figure out SteamTinkerLaunch
Dalamud (QuickXIVLauncher) even is on the distro software hub for easy download to your system, works great.
I just want to follow up and say “thank you so much!” I took the dive and partioned out space for Linux Mint. played around with it for a bit and said “fuck it, I love this thing” and did a fresh install on my laptop deleting windows 11.
Holy crap this thing has improved my laptop so much. it’s so damn fast, boots up quicklly and believe it or not my battery lasts longer now. I just spent hours customizing how it looks, it’s fun, it’s great.
Also I was easilly about to install steam, elden ring, Final Fantasy XIV and even World of Warcraft and they all work, and run, better on this machine now.
WoW was actually pretty easy to get going in all honesty. Instead of installing WoW directly on Litrus instead you install Battle.net via Litrus and it simply does the rest, EVEN going that route allowed me to install other blizzard games like Hearthstone without doing anything special.
My only beef right now is I’m having issues customizing the panel like I want. Tried installing polybar and got in a bit over my head with i3wm but I’m sure I’ll figure that stuff out soon. Got a cool app launcher going that makes things so much easier, even changed the shell and got zsh going which is great.
I love it, absolutely love it and won’t be going back to Windows ever. I imagine once I get a handle of Mint I might switch to a different distro like Arch (I love the look of that and how people have customized it) but for now this is perfect.
I never saw your other comment asking for elaboration so I’m sorry for that, but super glad it’s working out for ya! You sound exactly like I did when I first swapped lol
Good luck with the taskbar, we all find that one damn white whale!
ooh boy, and I was going to do pop!OS on my main rig thinking mint wasn’t good for gaming.
Mint is great, been using it for the past couple days and I’ve been able to get Elden Ring, FFXIV, WoW, Balatro, and FNV with a bunch of mods running on it very smoothly. all very easy to install. Steam games worked just like Windows for installing. WoW took a bit of extra steps but nothing difficult to do. Love Mint, it’s so easy to use. It’s like “hmm I wonder if I could customize or do this on it” and with Mint the answer 9 out of 10 times is yes.
The only two things making me use windows for now are my inability to run FL Studio on Linux (I tried before, I’ll try again)
Procrastination to go through my files to see if there’s something worth backing up before I wipe my drive
There are alternative DAWs but ngl they all make me sad. And some vsts are a nightmare to get running too.
But they are alot better than trying to get fl running on Linux imo. Check out zrythm if you ever have some time to kill. It sounds lile the most promising one.
I’m just in love with FL’s keyboard roll and I’m just used to the entire daw. I don’t really want to switch to a different one
I think Bottles has a ready-made profile for installing FL, last I saw it was marked as silver quality. Might be worth a try? I’m a Bitwig user so I haven’t needed to try it. :p (Though I have heard tales of FL’s magnificent piano roll.)
Its honestly amazing. I keep hearing bitwig is the way to go if you want to use linux and also be happy
These days it’s best to use Windows on computer where you need it for a specific application, and another machine for your desktop. Sometimes with a switch so you can use the same keyboard/mouse/monitor
I know someone who uses one of those beelink minis or similar as a dedicated machine to run their 3d printer because the company doesn’t support Linux as well as Windows.
It sucks to have to keep your nice production machine separate from your desktop, but it really beats the headache of virtualization or dual booting
Depending on use case, virtualization can actually be way easier
There are way too many nice features on Windows that don’t exist or are time consuming to set up on Linux. My only pain point on Windows, other than the stupid pop-ups advertising other services, are the fact that I can’t install individual GNU tools like nano easily.
I just turned it off as it kept bitching about the storage being full.
I don’t need you bish, fuck off.
Oohh, that’s a good way to potentially break this. Just download a ton of useless stuff and upload it onto OneDrive. People could make this service really expensive for Microsoft.
Anyone know where I can find a copy of Shrek in 8k resolution.
better yet upload gigabytes of senseless text and photos and let Microsoft train their AI on that
Double whammy is a good idea.
I want to take a picture of a brick and duplicate it over and over, then zip those up and duplicate that zip into OneDtive until it tells me I can’t any more.
So you want to throw a brick through OneDrive’s Windows?
So, yeah. What’s a good Linux distro for stable diffusion and programming?
How much time do you want to spend on linux os maintenance?
Debian
All of them.
Biggest difference a distro does is their update cycle and how much the distro “takes care” of you. Some of them do everything behind the scenes to make it just work. Others need more user interaction to reach the same state (but tend to teach you the inner workings too, which will open up a LOT of customization)
Fedora or Mint should be the most hassle-free
It just comes down to personal preference. Mint is usually recommended as a good starting point.
So how many Windows refugees will end up fleeing to the Kingdom of Torvalds?
I’m extremely close at this point.
Give it a go, it was surprisingly not as big an issue as I thought it would be, even for gaming (though not perfect for gaming, I’ve been able to get things working without too much headache at least)
Wtf is Microsoft doing?
Phase one: force everyone’s data into their OneDrive account. OneDrive now at capacity, you must upgrade to ensure all your data is backed up and retained.
Phase two: MS secretly (or not so secretly) use all this data to train copilot.
Human generated content to feed into ai systems is the new good rush
force everyone’s data into their OneDrive account. OneDrive now at capacity, you must upgrade to ensure all your data is backed up and retained.
If it’s made without any agreement from the user (hundred pages long EULA doesn’t count), time to GRPD the fuck out of them.
I’m pretty sure the END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT counts.
Not in the EU it doesn’t, unless they got the user to review that Agreement and agree before the sale took place.
After the implicit contract which is the sale has been agreed to by both parties (the buyer gave the money, the seller took it), one of the parties can’t force the other party to agree to a new contract before they’re allowed to get the contractual benefits of the original contract (i.e. the buyer getting to use the product they bought, the seller getting to use the money they got).
It doesn’t matter if the seller has such power de facto - legally they most definitelly can’t blackmail the buyer by denying them their side of the contractual rights they got in the Act of Sale by blocking their use of the product they bought until they agree to a new Agreement from the seller.
To be fair, they’re usually actually good at legally fucking everyone into the ground. The rest of the company they don’t really care that much as long as the money printer goes brrrrr
Rent seeking, theft/copyright infringement, walled garden you can’t escape (if Microsoft holds all your files good luck getting them back on Linux)
Microsoft needs to die.
Not secretly, Dropbox is currently doing that
For starters, bulk copying a person’s documents without their approval sounds like mass copyright violation.
If it’s a machine used for business: corporate espionage.
Oh, that’s okay though, you signed them the rights to do that by having an account with them
… I’m sure is how they’ll spin it
“By involuntarily uploading your data to onedrive you also agree for it to be used in training AI models”
“Also we will keep a copy of your data on our cloud service for only $19.99 a month”
Checkmate, consumer.
