Before I left Reddit, I used a plugin through the api to replace all of my comments with random gibberish and then delete them. Part of this was because (mandatory) fuck spez. But more importantly, it was to protect the anonymity of my account. After years of posting, there is likely enough personal information shared to potentially connect my Reddit habits to my online identity. I wasn’t planning on using Reddit again in the future on that account, but I left it open in order to maintain some security control over the account. I’m not really sure what to do at this point because I still consider it a security vector that’s a bit concerning. There’s no way I can manually edit and delete all of my content with the snail’s-pace reddit UI, and I have no ability to assure that my content will remain unavailable or at least not publicly displayed.

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    This is why I make sure that everything I post is offensive or inflammatory. That way, keeping my comments published is counterproductive for the platform, you dumb piece of shit.

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      See the reason Lemmy is better than Reddit is because you don’t have 37 people jumping down your throat right now because they didn’t understand the sarcasm

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        Bro WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT MY IQ? I’ll have you know my momma cared about my schooling very much. LIFE WAS LIKE A BOX OF CHOCOLATES

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        And you didn’t get a 3 day ban for threatening violence. Even if all you said was “I miss when we could unapologetically punch Nazis.”

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          Reminds me of my Reddit “violence” ban. I said that RFK voters should have their brains looked inside for more brain worms. Admins took this to mean literally open their heads up, killing them in the process.

          Reddit will ban you for literally anything if it gets dogpiled hard enough with reports.

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        No, no, no… not you. You’re great! Your posts are great, your attitude is great, your hair looks good. I love everything about you. I was just making a comment about how sites like Reddit deserve to be littered with offensive and insulting comments you fucking moron.

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    The API-based deletion tools usually have to be tuned to delete posts slowly enough to not trigger Reddit’s abuse detection. Otherwise, they’ll automatically undo bulk changes like that.

    There’s no way I can manually edit and delete all of my content with the snail’s-pace reddit UI

    This is, unfortunately, the only way to guarantee that your posts stay deleted. My account was 15 years old. I still log in every few weeks or so to go manually delete more comments. It’ll be a while.

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      I had to fiddle with my own on my old laptop, I used one of the plethora of github scripts, but then they changed the api to limit access to (I think) about 100/min, so I just changed the delays to 1000ms so it would only delete 60/min.

      Took two weeks, but I still haven’t seen any old content pop back up outside of archives and quotes from other comments in the thread.

      I search for a couple random things I remember saying on ddg/bing/Google whenever I think about it, so far nothing.

      As I’ve said before about certain countries, you know your platform is doing well when you (essentially) tell people “No, sorry, you can’t leave.”

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      I got permabanned so I can’t even delete my shit :/

      (For anyone curious, it was for suggesting that riot police should quit their jobs en masse following RvW. I still stand by that statement)

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        My account was “permanently suspended” for “mod abuse” because I reported misinformation in r/conservative.

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          dude that sub is almost as easy to get banned from as pyongyang. they bitch about snowflakes but are all half melted snowflakes themselves. absolute dumpster fire of amalgamated fragile masculinity. NEETs, incels, and racists only.

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            That’s the thing, though: I’m not talking about being banned from the sub. My account was suspended site-wide because the snowflake mods reported me to the admins for “abusing the moderation system” (again: for reporting comments as misinformation because they actually were, in factual reality, misinformation), and the admins upheld that suspension even on appeal.

            Reddit’s admins actively support spreading fascist misinformation

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          I pissed off a power mod and got banned from a handful of subreddits and accidentally posted on one of them with an alt. Both accounts permabanned for ban evasion - even though one of those subreddits was one I only ever posted on with one account. Alts get nuked as soon as I make a single post anywhere, too.

          Could get around it with a new email and IP but meh

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              They use machine learning to detect ban evasion. It takes into account email/phone used to sign up, IP, device fingerprinting, and behaviour on the site.

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        I had a site-wide, week-long ban for saying that Nazis who got punched in the face deserved it. Fuck that place, lmao

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          Well I personally think your ban might be deserved. I don’t think anyone deserves to be punched in the face for what they believe. A punch in the face might only be deserved for something they do. Depends on the situation I guess.

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            Idk that we need to let Nazis do Nazi things before using violence to stop them. If someone makes a serious credible threat it’s ok to stop it with violence.

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        My first site ban was for “it’s always a good day to punch a Nazi”

        My second was for “fuck /u/spez”

        My permaban was for dropping the “you like that, you fucking <developmentally disabled person>” reference in an amusingly appropriate thread, and the mod who did it just wasn’t having the “i thought it was a hilariously topical meme reference in the context of the post, but I completely understand and will stay completely away from that term in the future” (it was probably the only time I had used the word in an interaction in, like, at least 5 or 6 years)

        At any rate, the moderation here is overall much more sensible, imo.

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        Same but my ban was for talking about piracy in /r/movies and then accidently posting there again months later on one of my alt accounts.

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          Mine was for arguing with the BreadTube mod after he banned me for asking “Once you get rid of polices what’s the plan exactly? A burglar enters your house, what then?”

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      I’m banned from reddit permanently. But I suspect my information is still there. Unsure what to do about it, aside from embracing the fuckedness.

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        Send them an email saying you want to exercise your right to be forgotten

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      If you’re comfortable mucking about in the dev console and have some aptitude for coding, it’s absolutely possible to reverse-engineer the browser calls thoroughly enough that it’s literally impossible for Reddit to tell serverside that you’re not accessing it through a browser. At that point, all you have to do is introduce some logic to loosely replicate human behavior (time-jittered, of course, as well as some varied activity windows), and you should be able to kick it off on a raspberry pi or some other low-power “I don’t care if it’s on for a few weeks” system and let it ride.

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      Yeah, it’s easy enough for reddit to detect rapid edits over a 1-day period and just undo all of them. That seems to be the case here. The edits I did manually were retained.

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        I used Power Delete Suite (javascript IIRC, via Firefox, year ago) to edit and delete, and mine are still gone. Not sure if it is still effective.

        Reddit is probably less and less tolerant about edits and deletions, now that they’re full speed on selling our data. Still see plenty of deleted posts when I’m searching for things, which is… nice I guess (bittersweet).

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      They could just look 5+ years back, gauge the average rate of comment editing (with falloff for time since comment creation), take that as a standard, and pass that as a filter over any modern edits. You would literally have to edit slower than the average bear, especially accounting for older comments.

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    I’ve replaced all of my Reddit comments for the past year with AI generated nonsense. It seems to have stuck. I plan on going through all of my past comments but will spread it out over time so that it’s harder to restore.

    IMO the key is making a post that writes gibberish but that is good enough to suck a user in to read it for a few seconds before they realize it is BS. That kills the user experience and poisons the site.

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    I’ve been saying this from the start:

    Any basic level competency backend team has change history on comments. Crack whatever jokes you like about Reddit but they at least have “basic level competency”

    It’s trivial for them to build some filters to detect mass changes and just fuckin roll them back.

    If you post ANYTHING on ANY server you don’t own: it’s out there. For ever.

    https://media1.tenor.com/m/OUzcn0WrxFEAAAAC/sandlot-forever.gif

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      I always assumed keeping a change history for comments would be cost prohibitive. I mean there are millions of comments and God knows how many changes.

      But apparently it’s not a problem to keep versions of them. It doesn’t blow up the database?

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        If you’re storing change deltas rather than whole copies of comments, the changes for all of Reddit should be far smaller than the comments for all of Reddit.

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          Even storing full comments isn’t much more storage. Just consider it as another random comment from someone else. Doubt most people edit their comments so 95% of comments only have 1 copy. Hell they used (maybe still do) ignore edits in the first 5 min or something likely so people could fix typos/formatting before they start storing history separately.

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        So they keep the change logs. Just don’t provide them for the users’ benefit.

        Sounds like what everyone else in all the spaces, does.

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        Each change is less costly to store than each comment, and the system processes millions of comments per day.

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      Yep. I just deleted my top comments and deleted the account. I wasn’t a high fluting karma whore, but it was 15 years worth. I still open reddit accidentally often, and that site is for sure going for the generic social media route. Such a shame.

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    Are you sure it was previously deleted stuff? I thought the same thing had happened to me but it was due to subreddits being private at the time of deletion then later coming out of private (some weeks or months later) preventing those then privated posts/comments from being deleted. I think running another automated tool again should do the trick at this point.

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      Also, there’s non-rolling limit to how much shows in a user profile. All the delete/modify scripts I’ve seen work through the user profile, cycling each sorting method to access as much as possible. For old accounts, or just ones with enough activity, there’s going to be shit not visible there. Have to search with other means if you want to get everything in that case.

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      There might be something to this. I went and checked just now, prompted by a your comment, and I found a handful (like, six) comments from ages ago on reddit that did not get torched when I did my mass edit-and-delete, somehow. I found these mostly because some punters found them and necroposted on those threads, so I have notifications regarding them.

      I found a few more and deleted those by hand, too. Most of them were from the same sub, so that sub was probably locked when I did my mass delete.

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      It seems to be undeleted. I confirmed that everything was gone at that time, and I am seeing no obvious pattern so far. I could be mistaken, but that’s how it appears.

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      I’m not a legal expert, hence the question: isn’t GDPR about personal information? Name, IP, physical and email addresses, etc. I don’t think reddit comments fall into this category, maybe with the exception of particular comments with particular personal information.

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          I think that only applies once you’ve actually submitted a GDPR deletion request, not when you use a tool to edit comments.

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    Just checked. Mine still say this:

    Comment redacted in protest against Reddit’s deranged attacks against third party apps, the community, and common sense.

    See ya’ll in Lemmy or Kbin once this embarrassment of a site is done enshittifying itself out of existence.

    Monetize this, u/spez, you greedy little pigboy. 🖕

    (I edited them manually, though, so maybe it’s that…)

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    Are you a resident of the EU? If so, I believe you have the legal right to demand that reddit delete all of your data and user content, and by law they must comply.

    If you are a US citizen, I believe you have very little recourse in forcing them to delete your data, unless you are a resident of California or Virginia.

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      They’ll usually process GDPR requests for anyone at these hacked together tech companies. It’s not worth the dev time to build two separate flows

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      I wonder what the legality of transferring ownership of the account to someone in the EU in order to request gdpr enforcement would be… Or I suppose you could become an EU resident but that would be rather difficult.

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          Actually, the GDPR applies to EU citizens no matter where they are so you shouldn’t have to make your request from the EU for them to have to believe it

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    I had a similar issue. I had probably two million comment karma spread across about a dozen accounts. My first account was quickly auto-banned from several subreddits as soon as I started editing old comments. Those pro-spez mods had seen what people were doing during the exodus, and set the automod to ban those who tried.

    Then I did the same with my second, third, fourth, etc accounts. All of those were immediately site banned for ban evasion, because I was interacting with subs my first account had just been banned in. So none of the edits on those later accounts were pushed through.

    Reddit later un-banned those accounts, and all of my old comments were visible again. Likely to make the old comments show up.

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    Every time this gets brought up, I go back to a thread where my most popular comment was (since I no longer have an account to check back on and it’s the only one I know for sure I can find). To this day, it luckily still remains deleted. If it does get restored, I wonder if it becomes the original comment or the generic [deleted in protest of the Reddit API change] or whatever I set them to be edited to before deletion.

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    Just wait till you hear how Lemmy “deletes” things. Illegal revenge and child porn, genocidal hate speech, everything is stored forever and in some apps, not even obscured.

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      Yeah, I’ve mentioned elsewhere that the fediverse is far worse. Lemmy is among the worst activity pub implementations in this regard, and they are all pretty fundamentally flawed.

      Federated platforms are by nature trickier in this regard. Even email is difficult to truly delete.

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      We as admin can very much delete your existence upon request or if we wish. I think they also make purging photo easier too. Federated content though, that’s a different thing.

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      To be far, anything posted to the internet is there forever.

      Then again, that doesn’t mean Lemmy can’t improve

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    If you are from EU, you might try envoking the GDPR maybe? Though most make it incredibly difficult afaik

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    On a plus side, maybe, if you choose to delete your comments and posts again, albeit slowly, would be to copy/paste the really useful shit to Lemmy. I say this because one unintended (or not) consequence of these actions is that posts from years ago, explaining the solution to a problem that still pops up now and then, doesn’t have the solution most of the time.

    I don’t disagree with the sentiment or actions at all, it just sucks when you find someone having the same issue you are, only to learn it’s on reddit and the solution to said problem was deleted.

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      Yes, I’m considering this. Since I will have to go a few at a time it seems, I should be able to leave individual comments.

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        That would be pretty boss of you. Thanks for being helpful on the past and considering leaving that help available to all!

        ::6 months later::

        Reddit announces users need to log in to view posts and comments

        Fffffffffff

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    I just checked and Reddit did the same with my account. I spent hours editing and ultimately deleting my posts and comments, and the Spez Gestapo just undeleted years worth of content. I’m going to go through them again and this time I’ll leave the gibberish.