This isn’t the first time such a vulnerability has been found, have you forgotten spectre/meltdown? Though this is arguably not nearly as impactful as those because it requires physical access to the machine.

Your fervour in trying to paint this as an equivalent problem to Intel’s 13th and 14th Feb defects, and implication that everyone else are being fanboys, is just telling on yourself mate. Normal people don’t go to bat like that for massive corpos, only Kool aid drinkers.

Buddy, Intel ain’t a woman and even if they were they’d never fellate you.

I’m not up to speed on the discovery you linked. It appears to be a vulnerability that can’t be exploited remotely? If so, how is this the same as Intel chips causing widespread system instability?

You should work for userbenchmark, if you’re not already. You got what it takes, kid

not gonna lie u look a lot like a fanboy urself idk ur just giving off “my beloved intel looks so bad here that i can directly say its better so ill just both sides with some dumb thing” energy

I loved my FX cpu but I lived in a desert and the heat in the summer coming off that thing would make my room 100F or more. First machine I built a custom water loop for. Didn’t help with the heat in the room, but did stop it from shutting down randomly, so I could continue to sit in the sweltering heat in my underpants and play video games until dawn. Better times.

But isn’t the fix basically under clocking those CPU?

Meaning the “solution” (not even out yet) is creeping those units before the flaw creeples them?

Not out yet. But you can manually set your clocks and disable boost.

you know, im kinda a pc fan myself…

Just got this card as an upgrade to my 5700xt. It is so good, and REALLY pretty.

FANcy

Just out of curiosity, when you say better battery performance, what kind of battery are we talking about? Is this in a laptop, a desktop on some sort of remote/ backup system?

So this doesn’t apply to the Intel situation, but a good lesson to learn is that the bleeding edge cuts both ways. Meaning that anyone buying the absolute latest technology, there’s going to be some friction with usability at first. It should never surmount to broken hardware like the Intel CPUs, but buggy drivers for a few weeks/months is kinda normal. There’s no way of knowing what’s going to happen when a brand new product is going to be released. The producer must do their due diligence and test for anything catastrophic but weird things happen in the wild that no one can predict. Like I said at the top, this doesn’t apply to Intel’s situation because it was a catastrophic failure, but if you’re ever on the bleeding edge assume eventually you’re going to get cut.

I’ve put together 2 computers the last couple years, one Intel (12th gen, fortunately) and one AMD. Both had stability issues, and I had to mess with the BIOS settings to get them stable. I actually had to under-clock the RAM on the AMD (probably had something to do with maxing-out the RAM capacity, but I still shouldn’t need to under-clock, IMO). I think I’m going to get workstation-grade components the next time I need to build a computer.

Capitalism: “Make as much as possible as fast as possible”

Most of the time, the product itself comes out of engineering just fine and then it gets torn up and/or ruined by the business side of the company. That said, sometimes people do make mistakes - in my mind, it’s more of how they’re handled by the company (oftentimes poorly). One of the products my team worked on a few years ago was one that required us to spin up our own ASIC. We spun one up (in the neighborhood of ~20-30 million dollars USD), and a few months later, found a critical flaw in it. So we spun up a second ASIC, again spending $20-30M, and when we were nearly going to release the product, we discovered a bad flaw in the new ASIC. The products worked for the most part, but of course not always, as the bug would sometimes get hit. My company did the right thing and never released the product, though.

It’s not easy to make shit that doesn’t work if you care about what you’re doing. I bet there’s angry debates between engineers and business majors behind many of these enshitifications.

Though, for these Intel ones, they might have been less angry and more “are you sure these risks are worth taking?” because they probably felt like they had to push them to the extreme to compete. The angry conversations probably happened 5-10 years ago before AMD brought the pressure when Intel was happy to assume they had no competition and didn’t have to improve things that much to keep making a killing. At this point, it’s just a scramble to make up for those decisions and catch up. Which their recent massive layoffs won’t help with.

Researchers discover potentially catastrophic exploit present in AMD chips for decades

This. Full AMD on my last build as well.

I don’t care about any corp, I was looking at best bang for buck at the time. I was shocked how everyone I knew was like you should get this intel or that Nvidia, and when I asked why not <comparable performance AMD at 2/3 the price>, all I was getting back was marketing blabber.

Researchers discover potentially catastrophic exploit present in AMD chips for decades

They’re both very flawed

Of all the CPU and GPU manufacturers out there, AMD is the most consistently pro-consumer with the least corporate fuckery, so I take mighty exception at your ‘especially not fucking amd’ comment.

Most of the shopping I’ve been helping people with lately has been for laptops. And while there are slightly more AMD options then before laptops are still dominated by Intel for the most part. Especially if you’re trying to help someone pick something while on a tighter budget.

What’s so bad about AMD? They seem a lot better than Intel imo.

Researchers discover potentially catastrophic exploit present in AMD chips for decades

Intel has not halted sales or clawed back any inventory. It will not do a recall, period. The company is not currently commenting on whether or how it might extend its warranty.